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    Posted: August/03/2013 at 21:26
If you had to pick your top 3 brass for reloading, and also pick the bottom 1. Who makes your list? (Ex. Norma, Lapua, Lake City, Remington, Winchester, Nosler, Federal, Hornady, etc).

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norma, lapaua, do you need any more??Bucky
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

norma, lapaua, do you need any more??Bucky


Pyro, what's your bottom 1?
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ive gotta say that remington has given me more troubles in my shooting career than any other brand has.
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For the top, for me at least, it's Lapua and Norma. I haven't had real long case life with Remington and Federal brass. From what I understand, Nosler brass is mostly Norma. If you can find RWS brass, it's also supposed to be real tough.
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Lapua #1  Love it have to special order it from Midway so I dont get much very often.
Remmington #2   <====<<<  what I usually buy they usually have 51 in a bag of 50 which is nice.
Winchester #3   what I buy if I cant get the Rem but it usually looks like factory seconds or thirds the reject brass that they did not use to load their ammunition, usually bent sometimes unuseable.
 
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Nosler
Norma
Remington
 
Winchester
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Lapua all the way for me. Not even sure I even know or care what #2 or #3 might be, but Lake City is OK, I guess. 
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#1. Lapua

#2. Nosler/Norma

#3. Winchester








#58. Federal
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I've never had any trouble with Nosler, Rem, Win, Hornady, or Federal in getting great groups/loads for hunting rifles. 
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Originally posted by tejas tejas wrote:

#1. Lapua

#2. Nosler/Norma

#3. Winchester








#58. Federal


That's hilarious. Overwhelming boos for Federal.
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

I've never had any trouble with Nosler, Rem, Win, Hornady, or Federal in getting great groups/loads for hunting rifles. 


My knock on Federal isn't group size, it's longevity. Reload it it twice and the primers fall out.
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Thats interesting. I have some federal .308 i have load 8 or 9 times and it still works just fine. You must be loading it pretty hot to ruin it that quick
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I have very limited experience with brass other than Winchester, probably because of the caliber I have the most experience reloading for is 300WSM. I have tried Fed and Remington, but like Winchester better due to the primer pockets lasting longer.

 With my 7-08, it came with 100 pieces of brass. One box of 50 Remington, one box of 50 Lake City match(77). Both are head-stamped 308, but it works. LC definitely has better primer pockets than all the others I have tried.
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I've used a variety of brass, but generally have stuck with Lapua as my precision brass. It's been a while since I've checked, but it was always cheaper than Norma and just as highly regarded. Lapua has worked well and lasts a long time. There's no need to weigh or sort cases or deal with some of the other chores you get with lower quality brass.
 
A few years ago, I was given a variety of .308 ammo that was surplus and saved all the brass out of habit. But I rarely bother loading any of it. One thing I did early on when I started handloading that I wouldn't do again is buy used brass where I had no idea how many firings it had been through. I picked up a bunch of LC brass - some pre-primed - from an estate sale. The previous owner had no words to say on the subject. It shot fine, but I discarded it after two firings.
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I use a fair variety of brass and aside from differences between manufacturers, there is also a difference between calibers for most manufacturers (don't ask me why).

Overall:

#1. Lapua
#2. Norma (my Norma 338LM brass is so close to Lapua it is hard to tell the difference)
#3. Lake City 5.56 brass has been good to me
#4. Jamison brass has worked well, but in a very limited sampling
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#100. Hornady and Winchester has worked OK in some calibers
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#700,000 Remington, Federal, etc.
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#900,000 PPU

As a general rule, I try to use Lapua when available.  For higher volume cartridges, I can't afford Lapua, so I use Lake City for 5.56 and occasionally a few others.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

 #900,000 PPU
 
 
For rating for PPU is that for rifle brass? I ask because I've bought .308 PPU Match 168 and love that brass. No problems at all.
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Originally posted by garyalarson garyalarson wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

 #900,000 PPU
 
 
For rating for PPU is that for rifle brass? I ask because I've bought .308 PPU Match 168 and love that brass. No problems at all.

Yep.

I have seen a lot of PPU brass and it varies so wildly that I have to rank it low.

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I have done the PPU .338LM, the .308 Match, and the .223PPU and was not impressed or unimpressed, It is an alternative, I am on my 3rd round of .338LM brass and it is still in spec and no issues.

I will however start looking at the .223PPU closer now that you say that about the Spec, I had some issues with primer pockets if I remember I thought it was the Cheap Tula Primers, during the Primer Craze...
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