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Roy Finn
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Posted: October/31/2012 at 18:36 |
Bend, Ore. – October 31, 2012 – Nosler, Inc. is pleased to announce the release of their new line of AccuBond® Long Range bullets. Developed through a combination of bullet manufacturing techniques that are unique to Nosler, the design of the AccuBond®-LR allows for the highest B.C. possible in a bullet of the same caliber and weight. Designed with an optimum performance window ranging from 3,200fps to 1,300fps, the unique tapered jacket geometry and proprietary These are awesome! Nosler is going to take the long range market by storm. |
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Oh yeah, I'm a nosler fan so I'm anxious to try the 210s
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RifleDude
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Oh, man! I liked the original AB, but I see many 129 6.5mm and 168 7mm ALRs in my immediate future!
Thanks for passing this along, Roy! |
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Ted
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Bitterroot Bulls
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So sweet. So, so sweet. .730? Good grief.
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I am not trying to take a stab at Nosler but I have never gotten the results as they stated with the BC I do not know why but I am usually as much as 10% or greater off. I like the looks of them I really do...
I have wanted to do some more chrono to stand behind the above statement but this was over 3 or 4 visits that I noticed the in accuracy. I shot some swifts that were dead on and some bergers that were dead on so I know I was getting good data that day. I still will try these once available. I just want to put my faith in them that much. |
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Ernie Bishop
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I am excited about them.
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MC Escher
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What is the G1 & G7 part of that grid?
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Ernie Bishop
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It is two different kinds of BC (Ballistic Coefficient).
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Ernie
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Bitterroot Bulls
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I tested Accubonds a few years ago (200 gr. 30 cal and 140 gr. .270) by shooting through a chronograph at the muzzle and at 300 yards. I then used JBM to calculate BC and got very close to the published G1 BCs.
I also got reliable drop information to 800 yards with the 160 gr. accubond out of the 7 mag using the published G1 BC.
I assume that the rifling marks from each individual rifle will affect BC values, though.
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jonoMT
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I found Nosler overstated BCs too. You gotta use the Litz calculated values when available. But maybe these are measured better. Still, I'm skeptical that their 190 gr bullet could be .325 when a Berger target VLD is only .291. Regardless they'll be better than current Nosler options and the Accubonds have been my hunting bullet of choice.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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djp0623
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How does this compare to the Amax?
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MC Escher
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Ahh, OK. That gives me something to work with on Google. |
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IIRC G1 was designed way way back when bullets design was very simple and more square shaped. So a G1 BC is not a good representation of the modern bullets aerodynamics. The G7 BC formula takes into account the modern styling that goes into a bullet. So it is can give you more accurate data when using ballistic calcs.
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Out to 600 yards for most high velocity loads you can use a G1 BC and get nearly the same results in a ballistics calculator as you would with a G7 BC. So if that's all you have, use it. Just make sure you select the right drag model (G1).
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Reaction time is a factor...
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G1 is really only good at one velocity, G7 is good, for modern bullets, over the entire velocity range.
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Roy Finn
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Campare how ? The AMax is a paper (target design) bullet that folks do use for hunting. The Accubond is a hunting bullet from the start.
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Also, the Amax core isn't bonded to the jacket; the AB is bonded. The Amax has a conventional continuous thickness jacket, whereas the AB has a tapered jacket that gets thicker toward the bottom, to help control the rate of expansion. Amax expands pretty violently; AB won't expand to as large a frontal area, permitting greater penetration, comparing bullets of the same weight, caliber, and impact velocity.
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Ted
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Roy Finn
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Yes, that was kind of my point.
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Sorry Roy; didn't mean to restate the obvious. Just intended to point out the bonded core aspect since there are plenty of hunting bullets that are constructed just like target bullets without the bonded core and tapered jackets, i.e. NBT, SGK, etc.
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Ted
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Too bad they don't have a .308 in a 168??
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