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hi speed
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Hey Guys, new to OT and would like to give a rundown as to what I'm trying to do.
I have a DPMS Panther LR-.308, 24" barrel, Harris bipod, JP trigger, and a bunch of mags. I need a scope to meet my needs but get confused with so many options. I have been eying OT for a while and think the opinions here would serve me very well.
The only scopes I have ever owned were Leupold Vari X III 4.5 X 14 50mm AO HVY DPX. I have never fired any other scoped weapons, ecxept for the ones I use in the Army, as a Designated Marksman. I guess you could say they have all been Leupolds.
I need a scope that will foster deer hunting with a .308 cal. from say 25 - 400 yards. I also intend on shooting varmints at long range with handloads. The coyote problem in my neck of the woods is also becoming a concern as I live on a big farm. I have never hunted them and don't know the exact demands this type of hunting will put on a scope. I do hear that low light conditions for this type of hunting is the norm.
I'm in the Army, leaving TX., and returning home with my getting out of the Army paritng gift. The aformentioned DPMS. It's been so long since I have hunted with my own weapons that I can't remember what the scopes on them look like. I know that using what you have as a baseline is the best thing to do when comparing scopes. I unfortunatly don't have the pleasure of having a photographic memory.
I would appreciate input as to power, brand, Objective diameter, and reticle. This scope must have AO as I am a beleiver in having one. It must be variable power, as this will be a multi tasking rifle. And as far as the cost range, I will save money according to the input from you all. I wil say I do not like paying more for less, or more for same just becouse of a name. I have liked my previous mentioned scopes, but I understand that other manufacturers have improved their product lines, and I don't want my choice to be biased in any way. |
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hi speed
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C'mon guys, I know you're out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Charlie70
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That is a fine rifle you have, and my advice is don't skimp on optics or mounting hardware. There is a wide selection of damn good scopes with an even wider range in price. When it comes down to it, you are going to get many varying opinions and you will ultimately have to decide for yourself what you want. If you are accustomed to Leupold and have been satisfied with their performance, definitely keep them on your list. You may want to check out some of their different models you have not used before. On a sidenote, you mentioned using handloads. I reload also, but remember one thing, the warranty on your DPMS is voided if you run them through it. |
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Welcome to The OT, Brother!!
Before we get to far along, do you have a budget in mind? We can literally take you from a $299 Super Sniper to a $1500 US Optics SN-4, and everything in between. Give us a little insight to your financial status. Roger?
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Is the Z 4.5 X 14 50mm better than the loopy in the same power?
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Do you mean the Zeiss Conquest?? |
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I would suggest staying with a 30mm tube scope as you should have the skill to shoot out a little farther than the average guy. Yes the Zeiss probably has better glass but the 30mm tube 4.5-14 Long Range Leupold has 100moa internal adjustment and little else does. You are correct that you will probably want the flexibility of a variable power and the 4.5-14 or the 6-20 should be a good choice. The top of the line is the U.S.Optics SN-3. Nightforce is a consideration I just dont like them. Even though it's a fixed 10X I wouldn't rule out the super sniper because it is a good value for a tough scope. I personally have Leupold Mark4 fixed 10x M3 the same as on an M24 and I have Leupold Mark 4 8.5-25x50 illuminated mil dot M1, and a couple of VXIII scopes a 4.5-14 and a 3.5-10 . With several types of adjustments available you need to start by saying how do I intend to use this scope. Will I dial in the correction for elevation and wind (which I think is likely) or will I hold over and shoot (probably will happen sometimes). The VXIII does have a finger adjustable turret but Nikon Monarch Gold has one that is easier to get your hand on. The M1 style tactical turrets stickup high enough to hang a flag on and while easy to get you hand on they are more suited to a rifle that lives in a hard case and comes out for police swat missions. The M3 will drive most people who target shoot nuts due to 1moa clicks elevation and 1/2 moa windage. The up side of the M3 turret is that it is the perfect height easy to get you hand on and not so high that it catches brush badly. M3 is just a little larger than the turret on Nikon Monarch Gold (1/4moa) and VXIII (1/4moa). My recommendation is that you stay with a low to medium profile turret on a gun that you drag through the brush, and likewise if it is a gun that lives in a hard case and comes out to play when it won't get treated as roughly like firing range and occasional still hunting the M1 is great. Leupold service department can not be beat. There are other scoopes that have better glass than the Leupold but the Leupold is pretty darn good. Nikon suffers from a lack of different styles of reticles but makes an excellent scope. I like the VXIII Varmit reticle with wind drift marks, the TMR (tactical milling reticle) on Leupold Tacticals and the Nato type that is on IOR scoopes. Could I live with a duplex on a scope that I can dial in corrections from a laser rangefinder - you bet. Sometimes you pick a scope based on a particular feature that you feel you need even though there are other things about it you do not like as well. Is it important to you that it have an illuminated reticle, is it important that it have the reticle in the 2nd focal plane, is it important that it have a lot of internal adjustment like 100moa. With Leupold tacticals M1 is 1/4 moa clicks, M2 is 1/2 moa clicks, M3 is 1moa clicks. I'll show you a couple of scopes to consider that I think are worth a look (and they will all be over $500)
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