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mil169
Optics Journeyman Joined: February/28/2012 Location: Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 378 |
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Posted: June/28/2012 at 21:05 |
Well not quite, but I shot a lot of stuff yesterday. |
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SVT_Tactical
MODERATOR Chief Sackscratch Joined: December/17/2009 Location: NorthCackalacky Status: Offline Points: 31233 |
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I would be less worried about speed and more worried about the other feel of the bow. While chasing speed is fun critters have been being killed with bows when arrows barely topped 150-200 FPS. Its nice to have a fast bow but i wouldnt let that make me buy a bow that wasn't as comfortable as one a bit slower.
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mil169
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I'm definitely not a speed guy, but it was cool seeing that arrow scream for mercy. Right now I would be leaning to the Mathews based off of weight and feel, the Hoyt Vector 32 would also be right there. I think I will try to shoot them again when I get to another Scheels store here in a few weeks.
Any suggestions on reliable older Mathews models to look at? I thought of the Switchback, Outback, and Dxt. Any thoughts on these or others?
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Sgt. D
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: February/20/2008 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 4525 |
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The thing about speed is until they build one that is faster than sound you are better to look for quiet. You get into the dual cam bows which are usually the faster bows. You also get into much higher stress, vibrations ie. noise. Now Mattews has come along way with string and riser dampeners but I have found that the dual cam bows have to be watched much closer for tuning than the single cams. I have to confess too that I am about two yrs behind on the latest tech so if significant improvment has been made with dual cams I'm not aware of it. If you get a bow shooting 280fps. to 330fps. and is quiet then you are about as well equiped as I beleive you can get. Then as with all of us its up to you to pratice proper shooting form and put the stick on the dot. Be mindful also that the stuff you bolt on the bow has a great deal to do with noise too. I'm not always real popular for this theory but I'll share it anyway. Try not to set yourself up with too high a draw weight. Set it up to your proper draw length and if it is capable of 70lbs. have it set at 62 to 66lbs. This will have you shooting in your comfort zone and is not maxing the bow. This will help it stay tuned, last longer and is almost always quiter. As for older top end bows I'd hunt down a Matthews Outback ?+/-Switchback 315+/-, Drenalin 320+/-, or a Hyperlite 305+/-. Not that I'm all or none Matthews I am also a great fan of Hoyt but, for bows 3yrs or older I beleive these Matthews will be the quietest. Just remember quiet first, speed second. Good luck and let us know what you do. Here is a chart I found for some older bows and speeds. |
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Skylar McMahon
Optics Jedi Knight Capt. BlowHard Joined: April/05/2011 Location: TEXAS Status: Offline Points: 6082 |
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Well put Graham. I completely agree.
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Skylar McMahon
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I have the Switchback XT and by my favorite so far. I evaluated the Destroyer, Assassian, Hel-M, MR8, and several different Hoyt bows. And the break on the Switchback is by far tops for me.
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mil169
Optics Journeyman Joined: February/28/2012 Location: Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 378 |
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Hey thanks guys. I'm really thinking hard for the heli m, my only concern was the lack of creep. When test firing if I moved my shoulder at all forward, the cams wanted to take off. I've read several posts on this and apparently the issue has been addressed by Mathews with smaller draw stops. I didn't know to ask if the bow I shot had the original larger stops or not. I would be curious as to what it would feel like with the smaller stops.
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mil169
Optics Journeyman Joined: February/28/2012 Location: Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 378 |
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Any body have or shot a Reezen 6.5. I found one for $500 with rest and string stop. I'm not sure what year it is or for how many it was made or what rest it comes with. I'm still thinking of saving up for the Heli M.
Any thoughs?
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mil169
Optics Journeyman Joined: February/28/2012 Location: Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 378 |
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Well, I decided to hang on to the Carnivore for at least another year, maybe longer. I ordered a new set of Vaportrail VTX strings in black/flo green with black serving. Not to wild, just a little "pop". The should be really nice.
I just figured that there is no way I will get even close to what I have invested in this bow back out of it-so I might as well hold onto it to have something to show for the money spent. Beside, I don't shoot it all that bad anyway, and the new strings should be nice.
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bugsNbows
Optics God bowsNbugs Joined: March/10/2008 Location: North Georgia Status: Offline Points: 11200 |
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I'm still shootin' an old Hoyt UltraTec from about ten years ago. It's smooth, quiet, accurate, relatively fast and rather deadly. I'm used to it and it works just fine. I see no reason to upgrade.
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DCAMM94
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: April/19/2008 Location: Fort Worth Status: Offline Points: 3491 |
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I have a Mathews FeatherMax. Is that "older" enough? Seriously, I put a string stop/deadener on it, and it is best "feel" of any bow I have ever shot. With that said, my primary bow is a Hoyt Vectrix, bought in Jan. 2007, and I like it because of the marriage of weight, speed, and balance. Not to mention it's a great bow and tough as nails. With the Mathews, I treat it more like an antique. It just doesn't feel as rugged to me. I'll probably buy another one in the next year or two, but I don't typically sell my old bows. They are set up for me, shoot for me, and I just don't feel like someone else would truly appreciate them like I do. Not to mention the history and hunting stories that go with them. |
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mil169
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Got my vaportrail string and cable set today. What a fast turn around, I called them Monday and had them in the mail at noon today. Sucks I can't get them put on until next week.
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