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Peddler
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Posted: September/06/2014 at 17:23 |
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Screwdriver?????? WTF? |
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Sparky
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Good grief olOko. That response is uncalled for. He asked a question and you give him a condescending response. And reading your comment about mounting a scope I know you don't know how to either. There is more to it than using a screw driver. Edited by Sparky - September/06/2014 at 23:44 |
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ol0ko
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If you are almost 50 and you do not know how to mount a scope on a gun then what have you been doing your entire life? All you need to know how to do is use a screw driver to attach the rings to the dove tail rail and that is all there is to it. |
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Cut the stock. |
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10-Ring
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The Zeiss DIATAL-C 4x32 has a 1" tube and was made for the U.S. market. It also has an excellent plex reticle and not the heavy German type plex. They are extremely well made scopes that were individually tested extensively before being sent from the factory. Far better made than the Conquest, although the lens coatings on the Conquest are more advanced. I used to own one and have just been offered another this morning which I'm going to put on my 1959 BRNO 581 auto .22LR. |
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n80
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Okay, I've got one of these too. Had it for years. It has not been on a rifle in quite some time. I recently inherited a really nice Sears J.C.Higgins 30-06 (these had fine barrels and Belgium made Mauser actions.) I'd like to get this Zeiss on that rifle. I've only got one set of rings (Leopold type) (the scope is 26mm as far as I can tell.)
The problem is that I cannot get the scope rearward enough to get good eye relief. The front bell binds with the front of the front base. The base has the attachment point offset to the rear AND the front ring has the attachment point offset forward and I still cannot get it back far enough for my eye relief. Even though I've been shooting all my life (I'm 49), my Dad always did the scope mounting for me. He now has Alzheimers. So I have no idea what I need to do. It seems like I need the exact same set-up but with taller rings......even though I hate tall rings. Any help would be appreciated. It appears that the inherent problem with this otherwise fine scope is the unusual 26mm barrel and a very short barrel which does not allow much adjustment for eye relief.
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I sold mine about a year ago on ebay for $350 on "buy it now" the very first day I listed it. |
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theinvisibleheart
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thanks for all the help, guys!
Your help was much appreciated! Sorry for belated acknowledgement. --John
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Bitterroot Bulls
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Sorry, eurolynn,
I was vague. What I meant was the company Carl Zeiss Oberkochen continues to exist today as simply Carl Zeiss Sports Optics, and you are correct, they are in their very modern and impressive facility in Wetzlar. I have sadly only seen it on video. |
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eurolynn
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Oh....but I stand form on my vague price quote!
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eurolynn
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You are indeed right I should have paid attention when he wrote West Germany, my bad. The Zeiss sent to the West (back in the East/West days )were just labeled Zeiss.
But I beg to differ sir,on one issue, I am sure Zeiss Sport Optics are in Wetzlar. Oberkochen is where the technical optics are made for doctors labs and European Space Assn. When I lived in Germany I saw a documentary on how Zeiss made the glass for some of the space shuttle missions, very cool! I did go to Jena to see the Doctor plant. But I must admit I was disappointed when I went to the Doctor place in Jena. Not exactly the big 'factory' i was hoping to see, it was kinda........small. |
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Bitterroot Bulls
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I am not trying to steal the thread, as my post will relate to the OP's scope.
eurolynn, The scope is made in West Germany, so it was likely made at the Oberkochen Carl Zeiss facility, which was completely separate from the then Carl Zeiss Jena factory which is located in (appropriately) Jena, Germany (then East Germany). Carl Zeiss Jena eventually became Docter Optik, which it remains today. Carl Zeiss Oberkochen remains Carl Zeiss Optics today. I also have some Jena binoculars, which I like a lot, although Oberkochen binoculars seem to be worth more and desired more by collectors. |
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eurolynn
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The mention of west shows it was probably made in Jena in the ordinal Zeiss factory, before the wall came down.
A lot of variables can determine value. Is it 1" or 26mm? Ring selection could be a problem if it is 26mm. Are the adjustments 1/4" or 1/3" (due to the metric system?) Does it even have clicks or is it friction plate? Also, "The eye of the beholder" can determine value. Check out the auction sites, and if you can struggle through German, try ebay Deutschland to see what the rate is going for in Germany. When I left in 2007, you could get an older 4x one from 175 Euros to 300 Euros depending on your bartering skills. And do not be surprised that the old Zeiss is clear, remember that Carl Zeiss is the grandaddy of clear optics. I have an old East German Bino (7x50) from Zeiss Jena, clearest binos I own. The only reason I use my Monarch binos more is the fact they are water proof. |
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theinvisibleheart
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How much is Zeiss DIATAL-C 4x32 worth with original lens cap?
Glass in perfect condition. Little bit of wear shown on scope body.
It states "Made in West Germany" and I compared the glass against Japanese made Nikon and US made Leupold. It's bright and super clear. |
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