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LEE IN VA.
Optics Apprentice Joined: November/25/2011 Status: Offline Points: 62 |
Topic: Which one would you pick and why? Posted: March/16/2012 at 21:06 |
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Trying to decide between the Zeiss and Leupold. Savage .270, deer hunting in low light conditions.
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Brad4213
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/26/2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Status: Offline Points: 188 |
Posted: March/16/2012 at 21:16 | |||||||
Personally i would get the zeiss, but im sure the firedot could come in handy in some situations. Im not sure how thin the cross hairs are on the #4 plex but i know the zplex is good enough in low light. either way i dont think you can go wrong with either one. I think you will get better glass with the zeiss tho. Just my opinion
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Urimaginaryfrnd
MODERATOR Resident Redneck Joined: June/20/2005 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 14964 |
Posted: March/16/2012 at 21:25 | |||||||
Think I would take the illuminated Leupold but the Zeiss is better glass. Im a big fan of illumination because you never know what will go bump in the dark.
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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do". Bobby Paul Doherty Texas Ranger |
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LEE IN VA.
Optics Apprentice Joined: November/25/2011 Status: Offline Points: 62 |
Posted: March/16/2012 at 21:49 | |||||||
After doing a lot of searching I figured I'd hear the Zeiss is better glass but the Leupold dot may be better close to dark.
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Bitterroot Bulls
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: May/07/2009 Location: Montana Status: Offline Points: 3416 |
Posted: March/16/2012 at 22:07 | |||||||
Those are both very nice scopes. The Zeiss' reticle is good for low light hunting. I would take the Zeiss.
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-Matt
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SpencerK
Optics GrassHopper Joined: March/11/2012 Location: Tupelo, MS Status: Offline Points: 22 |
Posted: March/16/2012 at 23:22 | |||||||
I really like the Zeiss, it's great glass, but they say Swarovski is the best. I have ordered me a Z3 and it is on its way. I'm EXCITED!!!!
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I rather be happy than right
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Brad4213
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/26/2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Status: Offline Points: 188 |
Posted: March/17/2012 at 00:42 | |||||||
The swaro is better optically but if he has a budget then even the cheepest swaro is $200+ above these scopes. But if you got the money they are nice.
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bugsNbows
Optics God bowsNbugs Joined: March/10/2008 Location: North Georgia Status: Offline Points: 11200 |
Posted: March/17/2012 at 13:17 | |||||||
I'd take the Zeiss with the #4. I've never had a visibility issue with one (at dark or daybreak). I always defer to better glass / coatings.
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If we're not suppose to eat animals...how come they're made of meat?
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jselsor
Optics Journeyman Joined: August/01/2011 Location: MO Status: Offline Points: 328 |
Posted: March/17/2012 at 13:49 | |||||||
I vote leupold all the way. Those scopes have sharp optics.
+++++American made
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Dont take yourself to seriously
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Bitterroot Bulls
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: May/07/2009 Location: Montana Status: Offline Points: 3416 |
Posted: March/17/2012 at 13:59 | |||||||
Fixed that for ya jselsor.
Actually they are both assembled in the USA.
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-Matt
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dw0229
Optics Apprentice Joined: December/21/2010 Location: boaz,alabama Status: Offline Points: 121 |
Posted: March/17/2012 at 16:05 | |||||||
I would opt for the American assembled Meopta Meopro 3-9x42 #4 reticle @$399 (SWFA) and hunt as late or later than either the Zeiss or the Leupold.The Meopta #4 is super black and bold.I have used illuminated stuff before and firmly believe that with good glass and a bold reticle,it's not needed.Took several deer last season in very low light and one of the shots pushed the envelope to what would be Game Warden eyebrow raising.What more do you need?
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gulf1263
Optics Apprentice Joined: June/15/2011 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 212 |
Posted: March/17/2012 at 16:13 | |||||||
Hello all:
The newest Leupold VX-3 (or whatever they are named this week) are tougher than the Zeiss and have glass that is very, very close in the 3x9 or 2.5x8 version. It would be a really tough call but with Leupold's superior customer service and warranty I would be favoring the Leupold. Once past this price point, $200.00 or more, it is Swarovski or Zeiss, their glass is visibly superior. Again, I have noticed that when many of the big name hunter folks come to Alaska on their dime to hunt they usually have a Leupold VX-3 on their rifles. The new VX-3's are a visible step up in terms of the glass. I am not an expert and did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Art |
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Good day.
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SVT_Tactical
MODERATOR Chief Sackscratch Joined: December/17/2009 Location: NorthCackalacky Status: Offline Points: 31233 |
Posted: March/19/2012 at 10:39 | |||||||
How does Leupold have superior CS than Zeiss? Both have equal representation in the us for repair, both have excellent tract records for repairs.... i am confused?
How is the VX3 tougher than the Zeiss?
Please elaborate.
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"Most folks are about as happy as they make their minds up to be" - Abraham Lincoln
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gulf1263
Optics Apprentice Joined: June/15/2011 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 212 |
Posted: March/19/2012 at 20:19 | |||||||
The Leupold seals are better and the scopes seem to hold their zero better. (baggage handlers and recoil)
The dealers I have talked to say the Zeiss was superior optically but Leupold has caught up. Zeiss has good customer service, Leupold is excellent. We are talking about the Zeiss Conquest line vs the Leupold VX-3. Have used the Leupold VX-III, 1.5x5 and 3X9, had a Zeiss Conquest 3x9 but sold it and the rifle. Zeiss has not updated the Conquests in terms of coatings and internals in a while. My Zeiss Victory is better optically than anything Leupold makes and is just behind my Swarovski Z-6. The Leupold VX-3 3x9 has caught up with the Zeiss Conquest 3x9. Leupold Rifleman and VX-1 are garbage in my opinion..VX-2 is good and VX-3 is a very good scope optically and superior in durability. My opinion based on use and observation. Art |
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Good day.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
MODERATOR Resident Redneck Joined: June/20/2005 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 14964 |
Posted: March/19/2012 at 20:42 | |||||||
Are any other factors important to you Leupold has some CDS system scopes that give you an advantage dialing in correction at long range and some have the illumination
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JGRaider
Optics Master Joined: February/06/2008 Status: Offline Points: 1540 |
Posted: March/20/2012 at 08:51 | |||||||
Pretty accurate description IMO. in 10 years of guiding hunters, probably 75% of them have Leupold scopes. I always make it a point to quiz them about their optics. Not one single person has had a Leupold or Zeiss Conquest go belly up. Leupold and Swaro wrote the book on customer service. That is not even arguable. After looking through my own, and our hunter's VX3's, Conquest's, and Elite 4200 there's not a nickle's worth of difference in the glass IMO, in all lighting conditions. The new VX6 is better than any of these, on par with the Swaro A (Z3), and is extremely well built. |
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Chris Farris II
TEAM SWFA - Admin MODERATOR Joined: August/13/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3196 |
Posted: March/20/2012 at 09:20 | |||||||
I believe the VX-3 and the VX-6 both have Leupold’s Xtended Twilight Lens System combined with Leupold’s DiamondCoat 2 coating. SO I don't see how the VX-6 is better. I will tell you it doesn't compare to the Swaro probably not even the conquest. Is it a lot closer to the Conquest than it was in the VX-III model? Yes without a doubt. I hunted with a VX-6 on a rifle that normally wears a Swarovski and I missed the Swaro. I am not knocking Leupold I am glad they are starting to more competitive again but they still don't make glass
Edited by Chris Farris II - March/20/2012 at 16:04 |
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Chris Farris II
TEAM SWFA - Admin MODERATOR Joined: August/13/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3196 |
Posted: March/20/2012 at 09:28 | |||||||
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SVT_Tactical
MODERATOR Chief Sackscratch Joined: December/17/2009 Location: NorthCackalacky Status: Offline Points: 31233 |
Posted: March/20/2012 at 09:32 | |||||||
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"Most folks are about as happy as they make their minds up to be" - Abraham Lincoln
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3 Tuns
Optics Apprentice Joined: June/28/2011 Status: Offline Points: 60 |
Posted: March/20/2012 at 10:01 | |||||||
This board can get mean spirited quickly. The fellow just stated his opinion, clearly labeled as such. "My opinion based on use and observation." To label his opinion as "pure assumption" is a little rough. It goes beyond just disagreement.
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