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Tony219er
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Posted: March/03/2012 at 18:05 |
Hey y'all, forum virgin here. Anyways i'm looking for some opinions on selecting some good quality binocs, i just bought a pair of Vortex Talon HDs in 10x42 and they're nice,( I've 60 days to decide to keep them or not) but im sure theirs something better for the money ($405). My limit is $600, I generally hunt the Midwestern big game animals from stands, blinds and shooting towers...some spot and stalk. I'm kind of partial to Vortex b/c of the warranty, but am open to suggestions from all you experts. Thanks in advance, Tony.
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RotoReuter_DM
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Nice binos you got there I have some Vortex Diamondbacks 8x42's and I love em. I'd say stay with what you got. I'm a Midwesterner myself!
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Old Mil ftw
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Klamath
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If you like them, keep them. There IS nothing better for the money. There are several others that I'd say the same thing about if you had one of them too. Keep, 'em, use 'em, and enjoy 'em.
You have to go 3-4x the money to improve much, then you still have a debate.
They are two steps above the Diamondback already.
Welcome to OT. There might be an opinion or two lurking around here . Edited by Klamath - March/03/2012 at 18:23 |
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Steve
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Tony219er
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Thanks for the replies guys, yeah they were def sharper and brighter than the d'backs (which are nice for the money), the Viper HDs were a touch better than the Talons too...man do I WANT those Razors! holy cow those are nice. keep the opinions coming.
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Tony219er
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Another question, will I notice a difference optically going from 10x42 to the 8x42? Whats the thoughts on those different magnifications?
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NDhunter
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The 8x42 will be brighter in low light than the 10x42. So that means you need to decide if
you would like that as an advantage. For viewing well under 1/2 mile, the 8x42 will be a good choice. Longer views the 10x42 will be better. Jerry |
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Tony219er
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Will the advantage in low light be noticed? These Talons seem to be pretty bright in low light, im now wondering if the 8x would be better b/c I'll be able to hold them steadier (not that I can't with the 10x) with a harness.
Any other suggestions on binoc brands/models?
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Bitterroot Bulls
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The 8 vs. 10 is the never-ending question. Both are suitably bright for low light glassing with exit pupil over 4mm. Some have trouble steadying 8x, some don't. I have some of both and feel handicapped by neither. The 8s have enough magnification, and I can hold 10s steady enough.
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-Matt
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Klamath
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The 8x vs 10x is a strictly personal decision, and you will have to decide that one for yourself. I actually prefer 7x with 8x a close second and 10x a more distant fourth. Third in my book would be 8.5x. So if 7x is not an option, I'm going 8x and not worrying one tiny little bit I may be missing some detail.
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Steve
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Tony219er
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Wow! I would never think the Talon could touch the Razor...being such a price difference, almost $800, is the original Razor Hd the one that looks basically like the Talon? The new Razor being a single hinge? Not the open bridge design? Thanks so much for your help.
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Tony219er
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Ok Klamath, I think i just found the feal i was looking for, 2011 Vortex Razor HD 10x42 for $800 new in box! I'm pumped.
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Klamath
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But if you can't see it with your Talon HD, you won't see it with a Swarovski or other top end glass either. It is good enough that the difference is the eyes behind the glass and your ability to observe and see things. If you don't have a concept of what an antler tip in a grass field looks like, you won't see squat till you get that experience.
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Steve
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Tony219er
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Thanks for everyone's thoughts, I ended up exchanging the Talons for the Viper HD's in 8x42 and couldn't be happier, these things are amazing!
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Ski
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New to the site - anyone use the Vortex 10x50 viper tacticals? Less expensive to laser range finders, but still appears to get you in the zone on deer/elk. Any thoughts? Thanks for your replies in advance.
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Tony219er
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I have no experience with ranging recticles on nocs, but they work well on some scopes and the Viper HD's are awesome binocs. Good luck to you. I'd say start a new thread.
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