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    Posted: February/28/2012 at 17:56
I'm looking for a scope but I'm undecided.  My AR got a 18" Heavy Match barrel w/ 1:8 twist.  My main use for the gun will be plinking, target, and hunting (small game, fox, coyotes and maybe white tail deer).  I've looked around and I'm stuck between these scopes:
 
Nikon 2-8x32 Monarch BDC (299.95)
Nikon 2-8x M223 BDC 600 (349.95)
Leatherwood ATR 2.5-10x44 (349.95)
Nikon 2-10x32 Monarch BDC (399.95)
Vortex Viper HS 2.5-10x44 BDC (399.95)
Leupold VX-R 2-7x33 w/ballistic Fire Dot (479.95)
Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10x44 (599.95)
 
I'm really liking the Leatherwood for the Camputer option.  But I also like Leupold for the illuminated Fire Dot.  My budget just barely fits the Vortex.
 
Any comments or suggestions that mighhelp me lean one way or the other?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jselsor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/28/2012 at 18:12
I like the vortex viper HS out of your list. I just ordered a vortex diamondback for a16 inch heavy barrel 1/8 twist AR
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Welcome to Optics Talk. 

I just got the Leupold VX-R 3-9x Fire Dot and so far, it's been a nice scope, for the $$$. Haven't hunted with it yet, but I have taken it out at dusk and rainy weather and messed around with it. 
I think it will work well for a hunting scope. Reticle is slim enough to shoot groups too. 


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Any reason the SS 3-9x42 FFP isn't on the list?
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If you want illumination, check out this scope -
Leupold 3-9x40 VX-R Patrol Tactical 30mm Riflescope Leupold 3-9x40 VX-R Patrol Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - LEU113771
$599.95 
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There is a used one (mine I think) here -
SPL15675 Leupold 3-9x40 VX-R Patrol Tactical Rifle Scope DEMO-B
Click to view 113771, Matte, FireDot TMR, 30mm
$549.95
It is in good shape and comes with the $70 metal leupold flip ups which are excellent
 
Its a nice scope, I used if for a while but ultimately decided the SWFA SS was a better choice for me because I liked FFP and could live without illumination
 
This is what i use now
SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SS39X42
  • Matte
  • First Focal Plane Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 0.1 MRAD
$599.95 
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It can be had with a new mil quad reticle here - http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P50716.aspx looks like this -
You can also watch the samplelist for more deals, there is a SS 3-9 on there now for a deal -
SPL15407 SWFA SS 3-9x42 Rifle Scope DEMO-B
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I don't have any 3-9x scopes on my list because I would like a lower zoom so it can be used better for short range shots (30yrds).  I'm leaning towards 2 or 2.5 as the lowest setting but if someone can convince me that a 3-9x will work I might look into them.
I really like the illuminated scopes because they are great for low light shots but not necessary.  Just something that caught my eye. Smile
 
I'm really don't want to spend $600 for a scope but I put the Viper PST on there to see if anybody could convince me to buy it.
 
How do the FFP scopes work?  Kinda new to looking for scopes.
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First Focal plane scope the image and the reticle is in the same foval plane. This keeps the reticle the same size in relation to the target at all magnification settings. This is great if you have BDC reticle or a mil dot because it will work at all magnification settings. Most BDC reticles are in the second focal plane and are only designed for one power, usually maximum magnification.
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So a FFP scope would be better than the Leupold 3-9 VX-R Patrol or the Vortex 2.5-10 PST?  Would it work better for shots under 50yrds also?
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Trijicon 2x20 Compact Acog Rifle Scope Red Crosshair Trijicon 2x20 Compact Acog Rifle Scope
Stock # - TA47R4
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  • Free Lens Cleaning Pen w/ Purchase
$945.95 
SPL14386 Aimpoint CompM4 Red Dot Sight DEMO-A
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$599.95
 
Trijicon 1-4x24 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope Red Triangle Trijicon 1-4x24 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
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Not what I'm looking for and way out of my price range.
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AR 15 s can feel top heavy pretty quick with some optics I typically run a 1.5x Compact ACOG or a 3x Compact ACOG unfortunately the 3x was recently discontinued but the 2x has a tad more eye relief. I use A La Rue RCO mount that brings it way back the scope is very compact great glass and awesome illumination with tritium and fiber optic.  I also recently purchased one of the 1-4 Accu Point scopes and like it very much. I have had both the Comp M4 and M4s Aimpoints and like them also, but dont think they are as clear in low light as an ACOG. Other than these SWFA is coming out with a Tactical 1-6x that should be very nice in a couple of months.  Really I have no regrets my compact ACOGs are sub moa at 300 yds past that Im using heavier calibers and Super Sniper  5-20x50.

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6x42 Super Sniper   Comp M4s and 3x ACOG

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What scope is that?
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SPL15346 SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Rifle Scope DEMO-A
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$249.95
SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS6X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
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The La Rue mount above is about a two hundred dollar mount the SWFA mount below is about the least expensive solid mount for an AR
SWFA S.S.A.L.T. 30mm Scope Mount SWFA S.S.A.L.T. 30mm Scope Mount
Stock # - SS30HSSALT
  • Picatinny MIL-STD-1913
  • Matte
  • Comes with 1" Inserts
$59.95 

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It's a nice looking set up but I'm looking more for an adjustable scope.

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Variable power Its hard to beat this bargain
Redfield 2-7x33 Revolution Rifle Scope Kit Redfield 2-7x33 Revolution Rifle Scope Kit
Stock # - RED67085KIT
  • Matte
  • Accu-Range
  • 1"
  • Comes with SWFA S.S.A.L.T. 30mm / 1" Scope Mount & Redfield ScopeSmith Scope Cover
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Looks good but out of my original list... what would you choose?

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I'm not Leupolds biggest fans, but they hit a homerun on their VX-R lineup. I'd go that direction and then the Viper HS.
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I'm running a SS 3-9x42 on my S&W MP15 AR.  It worked just fine out deer hunting this past November.
 
Give a SS scope a try.  Once you do, you'll see for yourself that you'll be hard pressed to get any other comparable scope for the same money.
 
Here's a pic of the SS mounted on my AR - the mount is a GG&G FLT mount.
 
 
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