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    Posted: January/31/2012 at 20:05
How would a 1999 year model Kahles  rate against a new VX3 Leupold or Meopta Meostar? Looking for best scope in low light for deer hunting. 13 years old for a scope but I know was/is top tier scope.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dw0229 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/01/2012 at 01:15
Your Kahles is still considered a very high quality scope my me and many others.Also a very bright scope.I feel it is brighter than any VX-3 and as far as Meopta goes,they dont make the Meostar in a 3-9x42 but a Meopro,which in my opinion would be a lateral move.A step up would be the Meostar in a 3-12x56 as you say you are looking for a good low light scope.These are very bright and a good buy,($849@swfa), but you do have a fine scope and is no slouch for low light hunting.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote woodydog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/01/2012 at 09:02
 HI the khales is better glass than the two others your looking at, it depends at what range you are thinking of shooting at i have used a s/b 6x42 on small deer out to 260m in low light without any problems. atb Mick.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dw0229 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/01/2012 at 14:49

In my comparing Kahles to Meopta there is not a nickel's difference between the two;especially from a hunter's perspective.What you can do if you are wanting to be a little brighter is move on up to a 56 mm objective;it's hard to argue the sheer physics that a 56mm wont be brighter than a 42mm,that is with all other things being equal.But this is not going to be anything huge my no means.Plus there is to some a disadvantage of a heavier,bulkier scope that will require higher mounting.Is it worth it?Well that's a matter of perspective. If the bulkier,higher mounting factor doesn't bother you ,move on up to a 56mm.You will be a little brighter plus I think they look kinda cool;like big mudders on a truck.

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There is some debate over this, but a 56mm objective isn't going to be brighter.. .or perceived brighter than a 42.... but will allow you to use a higher mag compared to the 42.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dw0229 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/02/2012 at 01:19
In my observations a 56 mm vs. 42 mm with all things being equal the 56 mm is brighter.The folks at Zeiss and Swarovski strongly defend this position as I have asked their opinion.If you call the customer service at either Zeiss or Swarovski and tell them you are looking for a low light scope they are going to point you to a 50mm or 56mm objective(been there done that).Zeiss even says that there is no difference in light transmission between a 1"tube and a 30mm tube as I  have seen them state in one of their promo videos.This is also is debated on a regular basis my many people,but I tend to put a lot of stock in folks who have been quality optics for, oh about 100 years.
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fair enough
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 3_tens Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/02/2012 at 21:09
I think it is like a funnel. No matter the diameter of the big end. is the diameter of the little end determines the output. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brad4213 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/02/2012 at 22:54
wouldnt that somewhat disprove the theory that a 1" tube is the same as a 30mm?
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No! Tube size has nothing to do with exit pupil diameter.
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I didnt think so but the funnel comment i guess confused me.Whacko
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Meostar 3-12x56 is great low light scope, especially R1r verion with illuminated reticle
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