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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pyro6999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/07/2012 at 10:06
in reference to urimaginaryfrnd's chart, i wouldnt use a 300gr bullet.... i think the 270gr version i use is gods plenty for anything on this continent.

here is what my own handload looks like on a ballistic calc.

RangeVelocityImpactDropToFEnergyDrift
02700-0.50043710
100246102.780.1236311.34
2002242-5.2811.330.2530144.17
3002033-17.5126.840.3924789.18
4001836-38.2350.830.54202116.69
5001654-69.385.180.71164027.08
and the loads im shooting arent even that hot.
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375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hatari Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/10/2012 at 10:43
Originally posted by trigger29 trigger29 wrote:

Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

The winchester ammo loads with the most energy in each caliber listed
                Energy in Ft-lbs at 100 yards
300Wby    4223     180 gr. accubond
375 H&H  3572     ----- 300 gr Nosler Partition
338 WM    3467    ------ 225 gr Accubond  
325WSM    3367    ----- 200gr Accubond Yippee
300WM     3176     ----- 180gr XP3  
300WSM   3198     ---- 180 gr XP3  
30-06       2658     -----  180 gr  XP3 
308          2288      -----180 gr silvertip
7mm Mag 2806      ----- 150 gr silvertip 
  
When I look at this granted all will kill an elk but the 338 WM and the 375 H&H do have a significant advantage in energy.   Take bear spray along with you also.  I think I would be pretty comfortable with my 300 WSM  Tikka T3 light stainless synthetic, but I would probably be  hand loading a 200 gr Accubond in it.  A lot of it comes down to what you can handle well and be accurate with.  Better a 30-06 that you are dead on target than a howitzer that is to heavy and has too much recoil for you to be comfortable practicing with it.  As for scopes I really like the illuminated Trijicon Accupoint scopes especially in low light quick target acquisition situatiions.  
Fixed it for you......... Added .300 Wby.........Just because I own one, and that's what I'd take. Bucky
 
O.K., fixed it for both of you by adding the 325WSM info.  Nice compact gun that packs a punch. 
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I'd use the .338, should be just perfect for your application.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tip69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/17/2012 at 16:51
Originally posted by Stud Duck Stud Duck wrote:

I'll keep a very long story short. I have a  British Columbia moose hunt that is materializing very unexpectedly and the first thing that crossed my mind was what caliber rifle?
 
 but what would be the caliber of choice from the hive, .338 Win Mag or could I get by with less rifle?
 
Are you looking to get a new rifle or want to use what you have?  Is money an object?
 
Unless you have a desire to have a big caliber, I'd stay with something that you would want to use again.  Not too many guys like to go plinking with a heavy recoil gun, me included.  So I would either use something I have.. like my 30-06 or get something I don't have that is a notch above.    Like 300 Win Mag or WSM.  Those could be used for Mule Deer or even Whitetails if I wanted.  As far as bear, I'd rather carry a 44 Mag or something like that.  If a bear decides to charge, he'll be close and I'm not sure a rifle is what you want at that point.
 
Now if you're planning on getting a bear tag... that's completely different.  In that case, 338 or 375 sounds good to me as long as I could shoot it well!
 
 
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The .338 is an extremely popular moose rifle here in Alaska.  If you already have a .338 in your gun safe then definitely put it to use.  If this will be a new rifle purchase then the .338 isn't absolutely necessary unless you just really want to buy one.  Anything between a 30-06 and a .338 will easily get the job done.  Heck, you see pictures every year of kids taking their first moose with a 7mm-08 or 270.

My last moose fell to a lung shot from a 325wsm and my moose before that went down to a .338.  I like the bigger calibers because I'm always hoping to get a shot at a grizzly when I'm out, but just as many moose fall every year to the 270, 30-06 or 7mm as they do the larger calibers. 

The nice thing about moose is that they have very large lungs and if you can take out a lung they tend not to run.  They have such big bodies to carry that the loss of a lung just kind of deflates them.  I've had whitetails run 150 yards after a lung shot but the two moose I've taken haven't moved over a few yards before tipping over.

 
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Originally posted by Varoum Varoum wrote:

.338RCM
 
Good up to 600 yards
 

only issue with that is ive never seen ammo for it at wal-mart.
They call me "Boots"
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Growing up in Alaska and actually having hunted moose I have seen every caliber used successfully and unsuccessfully.
1. Shot placement.
2. Bullet construction and sectional density.
3. Caliber.
A 30/06 with premium bullets, 180 grns. to 200 grns., Barnes TSX, Swift Partitions, Nosler Partions, Speer Grand Slams, etc. is a good place to start.
Take a rifle you can shoot well, medium to low powered scope and be ready for follow up shots no matter how accurately you place your shot.
My dad killed moose with .250-3000 Savage 99 and 100 grn. bullets...I used a .338 Win. Mag.
Ranges can be from a few yards to 300+ yards, for a scope a 1x4, 1.5x5, 1.5x6, 2x7 or 3x9 are the very best choices. Go for rugged construction (think Leupold, Burris, Zeiss, Nightforce, SWFA, etc.), having gone all that way you do not want your scope to die, bring a spare if you can, fixed 4x or 6x and have it sighted in. More hunts have been ruined by baggage handlers than by any other factor.
The more competent a hunter you are, the more likely you are to be successful.
Stalking skills, physical conditioning and marksmanship skills count for more than fancy equipment.
If you are worried about bear, a .338 Win. Mag. with strong construction premium 225 grn. to 250 grn. will do the trick (have done it multiple times).
Forget the super magnums, you don't need them and the added recoil and muzzle blast will stop you from getting off another shot if you need to.
Good luck, it will be an event you will always remember.
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Nice post Art... sounds good coming from an Alaskan!
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