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rlarge10
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Posted: October/04/2011 at 13:45 |
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Well I pulled the trigger and ordered a 20" Larue Stealth upper in 5.56 and now I need glass for it. The uppers are known to be sub MOA shooters and I'd like to reach the rifles potential. I'm looking to spend around $1k on the glass. It will be used for a wide variety of tasks including varmint hunting, precision rifle classes, and long distance shooting. I currently have a precision built .308 wearing an IOR 3.5-18 FFP mil/mil and really like the set up. The features I'm looking for in this new optic are:
FFP
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I'm heavily leaning toward the Vortex Viper PST 6-24 because I have a buddy who will sell me his for $600! If there's something else that would be better, let me know.
Also I will be looking for a mount and am considering a Larue QD unless there's something else I should be looking at.
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koshkin
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Sub-$1k FFP battle comes down to Vortex PST (4-16x50 and 6-24x50), Weaver 3-15x50, Bushnell Elite Tactical (3-12x44 and 6-24x50) and a couple of Pride Fowler scopes.
Personally, I would probably lean slightly toward the Weaver, since I like the 3-15x50 configuration. With the PSTs, I like the 6-24x50 the most out of the whole product family. ILya
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rlarge10
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I like the Bushnells, but I can't stand mildot reticles. If they offered something with hash marks, I would like that much better. So Koshkin, you would go Weaver over Vortex PST? Can you explain why? Thanks for the help. |
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Skylar McMahon
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I'm not quite which PST your friend has but I want to assume it's SFP.
Personally I would use a milling scope in SFP because it will only sub-tend correctly on one magnification. I want to say that Koshkin likes the Weaver over the PST because the range of mag is greater than the PST. The erector in the Weaver is a 5 and the PST has a 4. I don't like to assume, but that's what I think. I like the PST over the Weaver tac unless the PST is SFP then I would say that the Weaver would be the better option. I really like the EMDR Reticle and that it's FFP. |
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rlarge10
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The one my friend has is the 6-24ffp PST. I really like ffp since that is what I've gotten used to with my IOR. I would like to try the SS line, but I don't think the 3-9 has enough magnification and I think the 5-20 is a little out of my price range.
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gglass
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You really should consider the Weaver FFP 3-15X50 EMDR. Although you will not likely not need the glass clarity that this scope provides to shoot out to 1000 yards, you will appreciate it for any distance less than that.
This new Weaver is far more scope than the price suggests, and if Weaver is trying to buy their way into the "tactical" market, this is the scope to do it.
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Skylar McMahon
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I can empathize with that. I really like our 3-9 extremely easy in my opinion to range distance and DOPE out to longer range. For the value, I can begin to fathom what can beat the 5-20 for the money, though. |
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koshkin
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I prefer the 3-15x50 Weaver to the 4-16x50 because I preferred the optical quality of the Weaver. PSTs are nice scopes, but from the ones I have seen 6-24x50 is the best one in this product family. 4-16x50 is not as good and 2.5-10x44 was pretty disappointing to me. ILya
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Skylar McMahon
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I haven't noticed that. But it is something I'm going to look at.
Personally I do not like another over 20 mag because of the mirage that I see in Texas.
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koshkin
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I am with you on the magnification range. It is pretty hot where I live, so high magnifications are not always useful, hence my overall preference of 3-15x50 or 4-16x50 configurations. However, if 6x at low end is acceptable, then the 6-24x50 PST is a very worthwhile option. It can be primarily used below 16x, while higher magnification is still available for the rare occasions when the conditions allow for it. ILya
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rlarge10
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Ok so I got both :) now which mount? Larue? Bobro?
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rlarge10
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Bump for mount recommendations
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stickbow46
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Neither ,get the Aadland
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rlarge10
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please excuse the ignorance, but what does this mount do that regular rings do not? Seems like for the same price of the aadland I could get a QD mount like bobro, larue, American Defense.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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I like the La Rue mount and the 5-20x50 Trijicon red post which is 2nd FP 1/4 moa clicks or for more money the Super Sniper 50x20x50 which is FFP Mil Mil. If you are not going to quick detach it the Aadland is really solid and I have heard good things about the BOBRO but Im a solid fan of La Rue mounts and they match up quite nicely with the Super Sniper scopes here.
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lightwind
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I am very happy with the Aadland on my SCAR and AR. I over torqued a screw and snapped it off and Jon fixed my mistake with quick personal service. If I torque them down right (which I do now) I can take the mount off and put it back on without changing my zero. They are the most solid mounts I have every used. They also have a large mount area in contact with the scope and don't leave any appreciable ring marks. They don't have any lapping problems due their monolithic design and precision CNC production. If I had more scopes I would have more Aadland mounts.
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