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rightwingnut
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Posted: September/19/2011 at 11:03 |
I picked up my new Savage 114 American Classic in 270 win, now I need new optics. Gonna be used mainly on whitetails with the opportunity to shoot to 400 yards. I have narrowed my search down to the following 4 scopes. Budget is $400-$500 and im gonna use Talley LW rings.
Minox 3-9x40 w/BDC $418.95
Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 w/Z plex $399.95
Sightron 3-9x42 SII Big Sky w/holdover $433.95
Vortex 2-7x32 w/Versa plex C3 $149.95
I have a Vortex 2-7x32 on my 338 Marlin and like the scope and price. I have no experience on the other scopes. 270 win with 130 gr should shoot pretty flat so I dont know if I need any sort of holdover/BDC reticle. Im open to other suggestions if I have missed something. Thank you in advance.
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SVT_Tactical
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I'd have to go conquest if you want the best glass of the bunch. If you want a very servicable scope that will still leave your pocket full the viper is hard to beat as you know.
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Bitterroot Bulls
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For 400 yards a holdover reticle would make a difference for me.
The Minox or Sightron would be my choice for a 114 in .270. The Rapid-z reticle in the Conquest bumps the price quite a bit. |
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-Matt
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rightwingnut
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Ive been splurging lately...why stop now. I treated myself to a nice bottle of Johnny Walker Blue last week and bought my wife a S&W 642 .38 SP +P yesterday when I picked up my 270 win. I see i could get a Swarovski 3-10x42 Z3 w/BRH for $898.95 and know that im looking thru about as good as it gets. What say you?
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bugsNbows
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That Swaro is a winner. I have it on a Cooper 25-06.
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stickbow46
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+1 on the Swaro,you will never be sorry!
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supertool73
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I have a Swaro Z6. Glass is fantastic, if you got the money I would jump on a Swaro. I can't wait for the elk hunt this year to try mine out.
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ArtP
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All your choices are good ones, and I have nothing to add to that. I do have an opinion on BDC's though. Without looking at my ballistic sheet, in a handloaded 130gr. .270 that is a slightly down from max load, I use 16 come-up clicks to change my zero from 200 to 350 yards - might take 8 or 10 more clicks to get to 400 yards. I find using the turrets, as long as you don't have too far to go, a better solution for long shots vs. BDC.
I don't think it's a big deal if one uses BDC or "clicks", it just opens up more scopes at a given price point if BDC is not a fixation. I think in a hunting scope the boldness of the reticle certainly matters. The ZC has one very nice reticle for hunting - it's between a medium and bold duplex. I'd rather have a heavy or medium duplex than BDC.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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I think the 6x42 Leupold FX3 with long range duplex makes a lot of sense for a hunting gun and should be considered mainly because all of the above will be brightest in low light around 6x and at 6x the Leupold FX3 balistic reticle - long range duplex will work where 3-9 scopes with a BDC are typically used at 9x and what you get at somewhere around 6x can be a challenge to figure out.
I also really like the 3-9x42 Super Sniper with mil quad but if I was limited to the choices above I would want the Zeiss Conquest. Having said that I will also admit having put a 2-7 Viper on my musket because I needed the 120 moa of internal adjustment to get on target.
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magshooter1
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Minox 3-9 with BDC @ $249.99 Sample List
Price is good glass is good.
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JGRaider
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I don't understand the modern day hunter's infatuation with dots, hashes, turret twisting, etc. Take that .270 for instance. You load a good bullet @ 3200 fps, sight it in @ MBPR 3"high @ 100) and hold on hair out to 320 yards. A slight holdover kills game @ 400 yards, all with a duplex reticle. I've been big game hunting for 39 years, and can count the deer I've killed over 350 yards on one hand. The 3 biggest mule deer I've killed (190", 190", 214") were all killed within 150 yards. I guess I'm too old fashioned to see the need for dots, etc.
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Bitterroot Bulls
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JG,
I will always take the more precise method. Holdover reticles allow for careful placement at longer ranges. Personally, I think good holdover reticles have led to better shooting, and less lost animals. The mule deer I shot this year was at 335 yards (no wind). Shot distances like this, and further, are not unusual in the high alpine country of MT. There was no way to get closer. Just open rockslides (and snowfields) between me and him. It was nice to know that my bullet was going to land right where that first holdover dot was. Like you, JG, I have made a lot of good kills with standard reticles and "Kentucky" holdover, but my confidence is higher with a holdover reticle, after having practiced extensively with them. |
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-Matt
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powderburn
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SVT +1 of the ones you mentioned. One caveat the viper will require a 1pc base or extension rings most likely as the savage actions are pretty long.
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JGRaider
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I can see for 20 miles or more in the open country I hunt. There's always a way to get closer. It may take a few hours to cover 500 yards, but there's always a way. Nobody can ever reliably figure out a swirling wind.
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