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ebow86
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Is there a particular brand that the US military supply's our soldiers with or are there many different brands being used?
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billyburl2
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Marines use S&B, and Premier. Army is still using Leuppy.
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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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ebow86
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I take it you mean leupold. Intresting choice for the US Army.
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stickbow46
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Most of the ones Wes mentioned are being used & also I understand S&B just got a nice contract along with the new Leupold 1.1-8x24 mk8 cqbss.
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billyburl2
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No...It is a very old choice. The Army has not upgraded its "sniper day-optic" for a long long time. There are much better choices, both "for the money", and durability/capability wise.
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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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ebow86
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Not suprising at all. You say "very old choice", how old are we talking here?
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billyburl2
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1998. Not sure when it replaced the M3 Ultra of the same configuration. Mil reticle, and MOA adjustments, old technology.
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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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ebow86
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Interesting, I would have thought it would have gone farther back that that.
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koshkin
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A couple of comments:
-We have no information on which scope is the toughest. Only the manufacturers know how many of their scopes break and they virtually never release the information. My personal impression is that most similarly priced scopes are made similarly well, although there are of course exceptions. -Anecdotal evidence suggests that most companies can build simple scopes to a high standard of durability. The more complicated the design, the more you should expect to spend for that durability. -Lastly, I would not put too much trust in what the military picks. Aside from the simple fact that they sometimes have fairly oddball requirements that are specific to use with their gear (not always available to civilians), they do not necessarily pick the best product. They pick the product that is the cheapest, or the most important to a particular lobbyist, or the most beneficial to the guy banging the niece of the cousin of the uncle of some procurement honcho in DC, or.... ILya
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Kickboxer
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Actually, price is only a "consideration"... lowest bidder often does not win. The biggest "hangup" in DoD purchasing is the concept of "adequate to perform the requirements" and, often, contracting will modify requirements, arbitrarily, to lower the total cost. DoD contracting is an organization rewarded for decreasing cost, not necessisarily providing the most usable or functional product. The whole system SUCKS... There are, however, ways around the idiocy of governent contracting personnel. Fortunately...
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