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    Posted: September/06/2011 at 10:49

Really glad I found this forum.  I think I have I researched this thoroughly, but am coming up empty.  I have read through quite a bit of this forum and if there is anyone that can help it will be here.

 

I need help choosing a scope for a Guide Gun in 45-70 using heavy loads (350s at 2100+).  The gun is used mostly for hog hunting and some deer mostly close in, and in wooded areas, but I do on occasion have to take shots out to 200 yards.  It is also a range toy where I shoot to 300 yards (gong).  The current scope is a Burris Compact 2-7x32 ballistic plex.  This scope has worked well for me when it is working.  My only complaint (other than it breaking) is I would like a larger FOV, but that is probably the price of the extra eye relief.  It has been sent in for repair 3 times now and is down again.  I need a scope that will hold up.  My eyes are slipping and using iron sights are not a good option anymore.

 

What I am looking for is something similar.  I want a variable power, compact scope in the same 2-7 range and am open to something with less power but probably not more.  The eye relief is extremely important.  I sometimes have to make quick shots in awkward positions and the extra eye relief of this scope has probably save me a few cuts and black eyes.  Also, I really need some sort of range compensation reticle.  I would like to spend in the 250 range, but if necessary I could go 500 or a little more.

 

I have considered a scout setup, but am afraid that may not be for me.  I have never even handled a rifle with a scout setup very hesitant to go that route.
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I would probably go with a Leupold VX3 of some flavor and send it off to the custom shop and have a BDC dial put on it based on your provided ballistics.  I have thought about doing the same with my 45-70.  
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Here is one:

http://swfa.com/Leupold-25-8x36-VX-3-Riflescope-P12644.aspx



This scope has a well-deserved tough reputation, but you mentioned you wanted a variable.  It might have a bit high magnification for really close shots:

http://swfa.com/Leupold-6x42-FX-3-Riflescope-P12758.aspx


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     Excellent  And these are suggestions from us "Leupold bashers" at OT.
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I'm going to make a little different suggestion and it depends on how much you want to spend.   There are a number of newer scopes that are designed for tactical work that give you both close in quick shots as well as higher magnification when needed.   Specifically, the Swarovski 1.7 - 10 X 42 with a ballistic reticle will give you great field of view at 1.7X and good reach at 10X with a ballistic reticle for gauging drop.    The problem is that it will also set you back $2K. 

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-17-10x42-Z6-30mm-Riflescope-P11126.aspx

However, there are lesser scopes that do similar things at lower cost.  I suggest you look at the high-range erectors and a low-low magnification to start.     The Swarofski is the top of the line and should take your recoil in stride.   If not, they will repair anything they sell.
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Heck the swaro is only 4 times his stated max budget.  That should be no problem.  Bucky
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I like supertools idea.  I'd go with one in this power. 

http://swfa.com/Leupold-15-5x20-VX-3-Riflescope-P12634.aspx
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

This might be one to consider.

Similar to the Conquest. German glass and assembled in the USA. This weekend we were out hunting and looking through a couple and CF2 had his Minox out there, and the miraging was very limited at 100 yards. They are great optics for the money.
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Thanks for all of your suggestions.  The Swarovski while I am sure is a great optic is way beyond what I can spend.  The Minox with a different reticle would be very tempting and I really like the wide magnification range.  Because Minox is relatively new and I have a long legacy of breaking things, I have decided to go with the Leupold (when Leupold bashers" are recommending Leupold it time to seriously look at Leupold).   First I was leaning toward the 2.5-8, but after seeing the field of view of the 1.5-5 I decided to go that route with a custom reticle.  The custom dial was very tempting, but with my aging eyes seeing the numbers could be problematic.  You all have been very helpful and I would like to thank you all for helping get what I am certain is going to be a great scope.
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Leupold isn't a bad decision and if anything happens to it it's covered.
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Leupold makes good scopes.  They are just priced a little bit higher than comparable competition.  But when you want something custom like you need, they are a very good choice as most brands do not offer anything like that.  
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Take a look at Bushnell's 4200 Elite 2.5-10x50 with a plex.SWFA @ $419.95.Claims to have handeled 10,000rds of .375H&H mag.it also has rainguard.
 I have had very good personal experiece with a Elite 6500 myself.
Own a couple of Minox Z5 & can't say enough good things about them,they have held up fine with my T/C .460 mag.The Z3 are more in line with your price range but the glass is the same!


Edited by stickbow46 - September/07/2011 at 18:20
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