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JAG980
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Posted: July/06/2011 at 16:06 |
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Hello to everyone. I have been lurking today, and am fairly surprised to say the least LOL.
All of the Leupold hate was the first thing to amaze me ! Much to learn. So I am sure you guessed it ... I have questions. First off, does anyone know of any reviews of the VX-3L 4.5-14x56mm Long Range anywhere ? Next, does Koshkin have a website of his own ? Seems he is the premier testing and review guy around here ... lastly, I have a gun that is VERY special to me in a lot of ways ... so I want to choose the best scope I can afford for it. My preferences / requirements are great clarity and resolution ... great low light capabilities ... reasonable size and weight .... side focus .... must focus to 25 yds or under on the AO ... and under a grand. The scopes I have been considering so far are the : VX-3L 4.5-14x56mm Long Range Bushnell 4.5-30X50 Elite 6500 w/30MM Tube Mil-Dot Reticle Zeiss 4.5-14x50mm Conquest I want to keep the magnification range in the same ball park ... and also the objective size. I would love to know if the Conquest is just THAT much better than the other two as well. Thanks for your input and suggestions ! |
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JAG980
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Oops .... i also meant to say I think Leupold's cut away bottom of the Obj lens is one of the best ideas I have ever seen in a scope !
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supertool73
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ILya's site is here. http://opticsthoughts.com/index.php
As far as your scope choices, those are all good scopes. While I think the Bushnell with 30x is a little extreme, but that is just my opinion. Most will say the Conquest will give a slight advantage in glass quality. It would be my choice out of the 3. This would be my choice. It is a better scope than all the 3 you have listed, at least glass quality wise. http://swfa.com/Swarovski-4-12x50-Z3-Riflescope-P47244.aspx I have a Z6 1.7-10x. If I could afford it, Swaros would be on all my hunting guns, they are impressive. |
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supertool73
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Oh, and welcome to the forum.
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JAG980
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That will not work for my needs though ... I MUST have adjustable objective that focuses to at least 25 yds.
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Roy Finn
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If you use QR mounts it can double as a pooper scooper..
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Magnumdood
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Why must your scope be able to made parallax-free at 25 yards? Edited by Magnumdood - July/06/2011 at 17:12 |
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JAG980
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LOL ... I dreaded this question, and it sure did not take long to pop up. I shoot a VERY powerful non-recoiling airgun, at distances of 15 to 200 yds. Parallax error becomes an issue if the scope can not clearly focus down to at least 25 yds.
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FreeJersey
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Also take a look at the Sightron SII Big Sky line:
And the SII line: They have some of the best glass and features you can find in that price range.
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FreeJersey
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I meant the SIII line.
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JAG980
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I really do appreciate you guys ! But you are not reading my requirements quite closely enough ;-) The Sightron only focuses down to 50 yds .... Will not work for me. Thanks though
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lucytuma
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We're not all Leupold haters, but most of us realize that there are other options just as favorable as Leupold. It seams to me that the Leupold maybe a very good fit for your application.
Edited by lucytuma - July/06/2011 at 18:19 |
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koshkin
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Here are a few options for you (by the way, is the gun primarily for target shooting? that effects the reticle choice), in no particular order
By the way, technically, Conquest focuses down to 30 yards, not 25. ILya |
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anomad
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Valid question with a perfectly valid answer. You'll never be competitive in a 25 yard match without proper adjustment range. Do you have an AirForce? I really dig the precharged air rifles but haven't splurged on one. With their hefty price tag I can buy a lot of 22 shorts, which are pretty quiet. |
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JAG980
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JAG980
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Mr. Koshkin ....
WOW .... That Minox looks waaay cool at first glance ! I would have to have a different reticle though. If I may, how would this scope compare optically to the Conquest ? |
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JAG980
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Hi Anomad ... I don't own an Airforce sir .. But i do own a custom AZ Theoben Rapid. And I love it because I can buy 1000 of it's favorite pellets for only $15 ;-) Add that it is just DEAD silent, and it sure is a load of fun !
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FreeJersey
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The SII Big Sky line focuses down to 10 yards.
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anomad
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Very nice! I had to look that up, only being familiar with the more common air rifles. 15$/1k... that's cheaper than primers! Someone needs to buy my house, I've been selling my toys for almost 2 years. I'd rather be buying a couple new ones. |
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hunterwingler
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uuhhhmm i not to sure if buying a rifle scope for an air gun the air gun recoil will jack up the scope. from what i have heard it don't matter what brand you buy. better off buy an air gun scope from some place.
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