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    Posted: May/18/2011 at 18:45

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Looks like some kind of red-dot type scope to me. Can you get the reticle to light up?
If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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And welcome to the OT!
If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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It's a Zombie optic.

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EARLY ELCAN OR RAYTHEON RED DOT SORT.

How did you come across this?

What weapons system?

Flat Top AR or Military?

Very Similar to what is usually on  a G36 without the peep.

Seen other similar ones on FNH equipment.


Edited by 338LAPUASLAP - May/18/2011 at 21:40
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Yeah it lights up fine, has an aiming laser, and the rest I think is IR, but I don't have any nods to test it
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I got it from a guy in law enforcement and it's on an M4, he couldn't even tell me the name of it though so kind of hard finding any info on it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kickboxer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/19/2011 at 19:22
It doesn't look like an Elcan to me.  I saw something with that general outline a while back... I'll have to think on it a bit and see if I can remember where I was when I saw it.  I've slept since then...
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I am not saying a true Elcan.

It should have said sorta.


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Yea, I'm thinking it was an Elcan knockoff...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Les Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/19/2011 at 21:41
I do believe it's an old laser designator. For laser guided weapons.
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The designators I seen when I was in the Corps (89-93)were fricking HUGE! I agree with 338!
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I don't believe it would have enough range... laser aiming device if mounted on the M4.  I've worked with the designators and they are much larger... you want to be 2-3km away from a designated target...  at least I do. 
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Looking at the pics of the new L.D.'s on the net, they are still REALLY BIG!
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Me too... The Light weight L.D. is about 35 lbs...
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InSight item ISM-V, ir

($700 value)

POSITIVE.


SORRY no LD.

This is the most compact I could find published, I have held smaller.

 http://www.selex-sas.com/EN/Common/files/SELEX_Galileo/Products/Type162_LRD-ILL_dsh278.pdf




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That one should have a >15km max range.  Similar military units have about 20km range.  Externally powered units have greater range than internally powered.  Min distance from observer to designated tgt is 3km desired...  some will range closer, but puts you in the CEP, usually.  If there is some type of cover, it's doable. 

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Thanks a lot 338 I've been looking for a while, that's deifnitely it
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