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outlawskinnyd
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Posted: December/18/2010 at 18:37 |
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hey now.
i got a pair of redfield rebel binos that are roof prism and im very happy with them. i want a pair of real nice porro prisms. i dont know i just find them so much easier to focus in between ranges. i find them more comfortable too. i love the leupold yosemite. but will never committ to buying something without checking whatelse is out there.
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Bird Watcher
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What magnification
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outlawskinnyd
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no more than 8x
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etudiant
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Hi, Welcome to the world of porro lovers. They still offer the best binocular performance around, at least imo. For your question, remember that the size of the glass matters as well. A small 8x25 is a much different tool from a 7x50. Once you specify your needs, it is easier to lay out some alternatives. |
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outlawskinnyd
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hey now. thanks for the warm welcome to the porro world. for starters its mostly gonna be used for predator hunting. i want something that is tough enough to handle the trek through the woods (i hunt on public land...it is what it is) but is also light enough so when im walking im not walking with my head leaned foward.
heres what im looking for:
-bad weather performance. snow, fog, rain, etc. i need optimal performance in this category. in central ny where i hunt it can be snowing and a little below freezing at 7am, but it can be 45 degrees by noon. that makes for a lot of rain of snow and hazy conditions.
-low light performance for hunting well into dusk and use when having one of those green or red lights at night (not so much a flood or spot light, more of a laser or beam of light).
-rugged design...i dont mind spending money on these things, im trying to stay at the $200-$250 range.
-good fov and power for scouting out to 200-250 yards at most
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Bird Watcher
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Built like a tank and excellent waterproof/fogproof, as well as low light capability, I recommend the discontinued Minox BD 8x44 BP Porro, (24 oz.) still listed on the internet via Google, etc.
For ruggedness and waterproof/fogproof, as well as the best price, I would recommend the Pentax PCF WP II 8x40. (28 oz.)
Stan Edited by Bird Watcher - December/19/2010 at 15:42 |
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Chris Farris
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Minox or Fujinon.
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Bird Watcher
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Fujinon BFL 8x42 Porro prism, with center focus, would be in your price range, but, it is also discontinued.
Leupold Cascades 8x42 Internal Focus Porro prism, also discontinued.
Vortex Porro ?
Leupold Rogue ? (30 oz.)
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outlawskinnyd
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what about steiner predator pros or sightron s2's?
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etudiant
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Hi outlawskinnyd,
You laid out a very clear set of priorities. You want a rugged set of all weather hunting glasses that will work well into the twilight, with a budget around $300.. Imo, you are the ideal candidate for a set of milspec surplus glasses, an old 7x50 IF such as an M22. You would want a Fujinon, they are really solid glasses, with desiccant cartridges built in. An alternative, which would be harder to get , is an old Zeiss Jena 7x40 Checkpoint Charlie glass, not just bullet but also radiation proof, with spendiferous eye relief and a tab to attach it to your shirt so that it does not bang around while crawling through the bush. Do note that you can buy the BinoManager for $10 from Coleman's to do the same thing more conveniently. I have no opinion on Steiner, but it seems to me material that both the German as well as the US armies bought Steiner glasses and then rejected them. |
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NDhunter
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I would stay away from any of the old military optics mentioned here. Coatings and all the rest are outdated. Over 50 yrs. old, probably due for a cleaniing, etc. Min. cost to bring back is over $100.00.
Steiner bins are rugged, rubber armored, and they have a large selection of porros. I had a 10x50
Nighthunter, and they are excellent low light.
Also you can buy these new and demo from SWFA.
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LRSMike
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I just recently purchase the Yosemite's in 6X30, and absolutely love them. Low light, cold weather, Fog hasn't been an issue whatsoever, plus they are under 80 from SWFA . Those would be my recommendation.
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Rich Coyle
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Check out the NIkon 7-15X35.
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koshkin
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I disagree. Strongly. I would have a hard time thinking of a binocular less suitable to your requirements. Try one of the following: Swift Audubon 8.5x44 Fujinon FMTR-SX 7x50 "Polaris" Minox BD 8x44 BP (discontinued). ILya
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Rich Coyle
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koshkin,
I'm not suprised you disagree with me. We got off to a bad start and you look for anytlhing I do so you can disagree.
When I bought the 7-15X35 Nikons I went to the binocular store and started with the most expensive they had. They cost $1000. I took two different brands outside the store and compared them. I asked the clerk to take the one I least prefered bach in and bring me another. He did this until he brought the 7-15X. I could hardly believe how nice something costing $165 could be better for my eyes than something costing about six times more. None of the lower priced items were as nice.
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Bird Watcher
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Just another good reason to avoid the zoom binoculars.
Edited by Bird Watcher - January/15/2011 at 12:47 |
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Klamath
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I strongly agree with Koshkin.
Just be prepared to hear all sorts of repetitive nonsense about the Nikon 7-15x35 zoom "alleged" binoculars. This guy won't stop.
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Steve
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Chris Farris
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There is a reason why not many zoom binoculars are available.
There is a reason that we refuse to take them on trade.
There is a reason why Leica and Leupold made dual power binoculars instead of zoom.
Claiming the Nikon 7-15's are better than a $1,000.00 pair of binoculars is like claiming a tasco World Class is better than a Swarovski Pro-Hunter.
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Klamath
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Just wait for that last one Chris! He's done it before.
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Steve
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