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193296
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Posted: December/08/2010 at 09:33 |
Am considering a Vortex 6.5-20x44 Viper with "Dead Hold BDC" reticle. For either an HK 630 .223 or a Thompson Center .204. Scope price right now is $399. It's really for the .223, but not sure I will ever be able to find 30 mm rings for that gun, so if I can't I will use on .204.
Main purpose would be pd's at ranges from 200 - 500 yds or coyotes at pretty any range. Have a couple of questions: 1. Does anyone know if the BDC would be too big on a pd at 500 yds? Would a mil dot be better or worse in that regard? 2. Anyone have any better ideas in that price range - i.e. less than $500 or so? Thanks. |
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SVT_Tactical
MODERATOR Chief Sackscratch Joined: December/17/2009 Location: NorthCackalacky Status: Offline Points: 31233 |
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The viper is a great scope. I had that scope with the mildot and can tell you soda bottles where hit at 600yds with it. I haven't used the BDC so I can't comment. For the price of the Viper its hard to beat.
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193296
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Thanks - so at 600 yds the mildots didn't cover the bottle up, did it? Also, do you think 20x is enough at 500 yds for a pd? Or would I be better going up to a 30x?
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SVT_Tactical
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Mirage will be an issue normally pdogging. most will tell you they dial down around 16 at most because of it. I think the 20 would be plenty. No it didnt' cover it up
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308 Sav
Optics Journeyman Joined: July/18/2010 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 362 |
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A mildot is about 3/4 moa. about 4.5 inches at 600 yds at highest magnification on Viper.
The BDC dots are 1/2 moa about 3 inches at 600 yds at highest magnification. I either would do fine for PD.
Edited by 308 Sav - December/08/2010 at 10:05 |
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193296
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So if mirage is an issue, what do people use 32x scopes for? Thanks.
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SVT_Tactical
MODERATOR Chief Sackscratch Joined: December/17/2009 Location: NorthCackalacky Status: Offline Points: 31233 |
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benchrest under ideal condition IMO is the only use for anything over 24x
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SD Dog
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Weather conditions play a big role when shooting p-dogs. Max magnification for me is 12 to 14x on most days. Still allows me to have some field of view, p-dogs do move from mound to mound, and keeps mirage manageable. In early morning you can zoom in more, but I have not found a need. If you are going to try to get yotes as well, you will cuss a high mag scope if they get in close on you. I have 1 6-24 and 2 6-18. They are great for p-dogs, but not as good for yotes that get in close. My ideal varmint scope would be 3-15. Good low end and plenty on the top end, but that is me. For p-dogs the 6.5-20 would be good and would work for the occasional yote.
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Do you know why the Vortex 6-24x50 Crossfire is so cheap, there are about 100 dollars with the 30mm tube
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topbrass
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No, why?
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WestOfPecos
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The $100 version does not have a 30mm tube. It was being phased out but SWFA made it a special. The regularly priced version has a 30mm tube. |
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supertool73
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Why not get the V-plex reticle? It is .1. You will be better off dialing in your shots than holding over anyway. p dogs are small and hold over is better used for larger targets.
Plus I would get the 50mm objecive. It will give you a little more exit pupil which will make the higher mags a little more usable. |
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