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Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

I've considered a lot of things and I really don't want my lower mag to be higher than 5. With most all things taken into consideration I have narrowed it down to the conquest which in my mind has always been superb for under the $1k mark. The other last man standing is the Minox ZA5 3-15. For the pricetag after looking through it the Minox is harder harder not to try. I have the Remington 700 SPS Varmint. You said you have a few .204s about when do they run out of horsepower? From what I know I shouldnt have any issues out to 600.
 
My slowest 204, a CZ-527A has the following M/V (@440') above sea level with a 39 SMK;
 
Muzzle Vel; 3550 fps
Muzzle Egy; 1103 ft/lbs
 
500 yds Vel: 1713 fps
500 yds Egy; 254 ft/lbs
 
800 yds Vel:  1044
800 yds Egy; 94 ft/lbs
 
At 800 yds this load goes subsonic which is the end of the line.  Since I shoot mine primarly at ground squirrels, I won't reun out of horse-power.  But if it was something bigger it might not be enough, which is where my 6mm Remington comes into play.
 
As far as the MIN magnification, I hear ya' but I'm using mine in wide open areas with many back-up rifles so a 6 or a 6.5 isn't a main concern for me and neither would a 8.5.  Now, if I were to use it in folage then I too would reduce my MIN pwr to 5 or less.
 
A Zeiss Conquest is a good choice but I wish they would offer the 4.5-14x50 with their Rapid Z Varmint reticle.
 
Oh, and on a different note; received the Leupold Binoculars today (switch power).  Another 1st class transaction from you folks, Thx.
 
 
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I think a Conquest with the Rapid-Z Varmint, AND a kenton knob would be excellent. That way if the action is very fast, you can use the reticle, but for all out precision, you still have a knob to dial in..... But maybe I just like options.

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what all these guys say, conquest rapid-Z with some nice zoom on it!
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Unfortunatly to get a Rapid Z-Varmint one has to get a 6.5-20x50.  My CZ 204 wears this scope, it is a nice piece of glass but so are the Swarovski's which are on the Remington's.
 
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I would probably consider Sightron S3 6-24x50 for this.  It is a nice piece and I easily prefer S3 to Elite 6500 in terms of optical quality (not hard for you to check).

Minox ZA-5 4-20x50 is another good choice.

Or you could wait and see what interesting stuff comes out at SHOT.  I can think of a couple of good options that will be announced in January.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I would probably consider Sightron S3 6-24x50 for this.  It is a nice piece and I easily prefer S3 to Elite 6500 in terms of optical quality (not hard for you to check).

Minox ZA-5 4-20x50 is another good choice.

Or you could wait and see what interesting stuff comes out at SHOT.  I can think of a couple of good options that will be announced in January.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I would probably consider Sightron S3 6-24x50 for this.  It is a nice piece and I easily prefer S3 to Elite 6500 in terms of optical quality (not hard for you to check).

Great glass, but heavy at >22 oz.
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I would probably consider Sightron S3 6-24x50 for this.  It is a nice piece and I easily prefer S3 to Elite 6500 in terms of optical quality (not hard for you to check).

Minox ZA-5 4-20x50 is another good choice.

Or you could wait and see what interesting stuff comes out at SHOT.  I can think of a couple of good options that will be announced in January.

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now lets see it buttoned up!
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 It must be nice to be where you can compare them side to side. Eek I wish I knew what the new super secret optic was from Trijicon. Head Banger or if it makes current models obsolete. Yikes


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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I would probably consider Sightron S3 6-24x50 for this.  It is a nice piece and I easily prefer S3 to Elite 6500 in terms of optical quality (not hard for you to check).

Minox ZA-5 4-20x50 is another good choice.

Or you could wait and see what interesting stuff comes out at SHOT.  I can think of a couple of good options that will be announced in January.

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ILya,
 
After reading a review you had posted (stumbled across it on google), that Minox scope sounds like its a good bang for the buck as long as you like the reticles.  I may have to spring for a 4-20 for my 17 HMR.
 
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Jim,
     
They are a well kept secret currently, but with those mag ranges and the glass quality they are a good deal for the money. Especially with its competition it should say a lot for this scope considering what I picked it over. I chose the Minox because the COMBINED features of PRICE, GLASS, 5X ZOOM, and it has plenty of ELEVATION TRAVEL to be swapped to another gun down the road. I will give a review over it once I get it out in the field and post as much as I possibly can about it against all the scopes below except maybe the Viper and I will throw in my swarovski in the matchup also.
 
Bushnell 4.5-30x50 Elite 6500 30mm Rifle Scope DOA 600 Bushnell 4.5-30x50 Elite 6500 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - 654305B
  • Matte
  • DOA 600
  • 30mm
  • Rainguard
  • Free Sun Shade w/ Purchase
  • Free Fleece Pullover (Mail-In Coupon)
$949.95 

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Zeiss 4.5-14x50 Conquest Rifle Scope Z-Plex Zeiss 4.5-14x50 Conquest Rifle Scope
Stock # - ZEI5214909920
  • Matte
  • Z-Plex
  • 1"
  • Side Focus
  • Target Knobs
  • Etched Glass
  • 2nd Plane
$849.95 
 

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Vortex 4-12x40 Viper Rifle Scope Dead-Hold BDC Vortex 4-12x40 Viper Rifle Scope
Stock # - VPRM04BDC
  • Matte
  • Dead-Hold BDC
  • 1"
  • Side Focus
$399.95 
 

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Minox 4-20X50 ZA5 Riflescope Minox 4-20X50 ZA5 Riflescope
Stock # - 66031
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  • Minox BDC
  • 1"
  • Side Focus
$728.95 
 

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I'm looking foward to this!
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Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

I will give a review over it once I get it out in the field and post as much as I possibly can about it against all the scopes below except maybe the Viper and I will throw in my swarovski in the matchup also. 
 
I appreciate it and I'll be lookin' out for it.
 
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That looks nice CFII.   I like it.Excellent
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Thanks guys I can't wait to get out and shoot it.
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