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Shot my viper 6.5-20X44 on my savage 30-06 and love it.  The only issue i have is it takes me a while to focus in but thats because I need new contact lenses. I have a 6-24x50 crossfire now too that I dont have anything to put on yet.  First impression are good except it gets fuzzy in the high magnification. I am wondering if that is just because I cant point it at anything far enough away to use the 24x mag. If I take my viper and put it on 20 and then point it at the house across the street even when I adjust the parallax to the yardage its still not really clear. 
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Saito,

Does the image get sharp at a different parallax setting? Many of my parallax adjustable scopes are marked well off of the proper parallax setting. I just adjust the parallax to get a sharp, parallax free image for my intended target.
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My Viper is not super clear at over 16x either.  Higher magnification really brings out the flaws in glass and the whole optical system.  Having only the 44mm objective will make that even a little worse over the 50mm.

Bitterroot is right about the parallax, mine does not quite line up with the numbers either. 
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Saito,

Does the image get sharp at a different parallax setting? Many of my parallax adjustable scopes are marked well off of the proper parallax setting. I just adjust the parallax to get a sharp, parallax free image for my intended target.
The numbers on the objective are rarely spot on. I just turn it until the image gets clear. Over about 16x its blurry no matter what the parallax setting is. Of course I can only point it at things about 150 yards away in my neighborhood. I got the scope off the sample list becuase it was 79 bucks and I figured it was worth the shot, being a vortex with the customer service and the warranty. Is the scope defective? or is it just due to 24x being too much mag for objects closer than say 200 300 yards?
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$79 bucks for a Viper!?  Where can I get that deal?  The 6.5-20 Viper I checked out at the local sports-mart (Oh, I hate going there...) seemed sharp throughout the magnification range.  I would give Vortex CS a call.  If it is the Crossfire, I think they lose quite a bit of resolution at high mag.
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

$79 bucks for a Viper!?  Where can I get that deal?  The 6.5-20 Viper I checked out at the local sports-mart (Oh, I hate going there...) seemed sharp throughout the magnification range.  I would give Vortex CS a call.  If it is the Crossfire, I think they lose quite a bit of resolution at high mag.
Its not a viper its a crossfire. I may not have clarified that. The viper I have is on my .30-06 it is a 6.5-20x44 with 30mm tube. The Crossfire is a 6-24x50 with a 1" tube.
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The viper is spot on. No complaints
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oh, good.

I think its pretty hard to get a nice picture at high magnification in a scope at the Crossfire's price point.
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Currently emailing Scott at Vortex to see if there really is something wrong with the scope of if the fuzzyness is expected. Seems a bit much to me.
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Originally posted by saitotiktmdog saitotiktmdog wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

$79 bucks for a Viper!?  Where can I get that deal?  The 6.5-20 Viper I checked out at the local sports-mart (Oh, I hate going there...) seemed sharp throughout the magnification range.  I would give Vortex CS a call.  If it is the Crossfire, I think they lose quite a bit of resolution at high mag.
Its not a viper its a crossfire. I may not have clarified that. The viper I have is on my .30-06 it is a 6.5-20x44 with 30mm tube. The Crossfire is a 6-24x50 with a 1" tube.
how does that crossfire compare to the viper from the 6-12x magnification range?
im trying to decide if i can get away with the $100 one for target shooting or save up $250 for the discounted viper.
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Originally posted by grimreaper21 grimreaper21 wrote:

Originally posted by saitotiktmdog saitotiktmdog wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

$79 bucks for a Viper!?  Where can I get that deal?  The 6.5-20 Viper I checked out at the local sports-mart (Oh, I hate going there...) seemed sharp throughout the magnification range.  I would give Vortex CS a call.  If it is the Crossfire, I think they lose quite a bit of resolution at high mag.
Its not a viper its a crossfire. I may not have clarified that. The viper I have is on my .30-06 it is a 6.5-20x44 with 30mm tube. The Crossfire is a 6-24x50 with a 1" tube.
how does that crossfire compare to the viper from the 6-12x magnification range?
im trying to decide if i can get away with the $100 one for target shooting or save up $250 for the discounted viper.




If you can still find one of the discontinued Vipers that is a really easy decision. You will never see a scope of the quality of the Vipers at this price again. Even at regular price the Vipers rival scopes that are much more expensive. The crossfires are an entry level scope and really just cant even be compared to the Vipers,save the fact that they are both riflescopes. The crossfires will be around for a while and you will be able to purchase one anytime.  Hope this helps.




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Thanks Scott!  Get teh Viper while you can!!!  I have both teh Crossfire and teh Viper in 6-20!  Crossfire is good for what it is...a entry level scope.  the Vipers compare to 6500s and the like in everything but cost!!! I'm loving my vipers!!!  BTW I also have a 2-7X32 C3 Viper and she's my goto for deer hunting!!!
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Yeah those Vipers are awesome.  I have one in the box waiting for a rifle.

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I am anxiously waiting to see the upcoming product releases!  I can't wait to see the new Viper scopes, the new Viper PSTs, the new Razor HD bins, and the new 20-50 wide angle eyepiece for the Razor HD spotter.  What's that?  That last one is only in my dreams?  My mistake.

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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Thanks Scott!  Get teh Viper while you can!!!  I have both teh Crossfire and teh Viper in 6-20!  Crossfire is good for what it is...a entry level scope.  the Vipers compare to 6500s and the like in everything but cost!!! I'm loving my vipers!!!  BTW I also have a 2-7X32 C3 Viper and she's my goto for deer hunting!!!
Don't know about the Crossfire but the 2-7x32 C3 Viper is super! Wish that reticle was available in an illuminated version(hint, hint, HINT!) One can always dream. Stare
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has anyone tried the  crossfire
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Yes I had 3 of them and traded two in on a Viper!  Still have a older Crossfire and it's holding up well so far!  Again I say GET THE VIPER while you can!!!!!!
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Well This has been very informative.  I am pondering a Viper in 6.5x20x44mm for my new big game long range rig. 
Can anyone suggest a reticle for this purpose?
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I have this This vortex-nomad-20-60x60/ they are marvellous and i gues nothing can come close to this eye piece. Well, wither i m gettting way better or these scopes are really fine, i am sure its the latter. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Scott_at_Vortex Scott_at_Vortex wrote:

I have a couple of suggestions for you and they are just that "suggestions".  Instead of using bore sighters try taking your upper off of the lower, take your bolt group out and set the upper on something sturdy were it wont shift to easily. Now find something about 50 to 100 yds out to use as a reference point. Point your upper with scope mounted at this point and sight through your bore. Get it as close to the center of the bore as possible. Now keeping the upper very still adjust your scope to this point. You have now bore sighted your gun. This method works better than any boresighter that I have ever used and it doesnt cost a thing. I have been using this way for years and I have literally never been more than 5 inches off.


Does this really work as good/better than a laser?

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