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cheaptrick
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TPS actually advertises "pre lapped" rings on their website. These rings just straight up ROCK and leave no ring marks and work 100% perfect on the 3 or 4 pair I've owned and several scopes mounted. No lapping bar for me when I use TPS. |
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TheDuke
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Well part of lapping is to 1) smooth the ring out to keep from getting marks, and the other 2) is to help in slight (very slight) alignment and fit of the front and back rings ON your particular gun. Having the rings lapped while NOT on YOUR gun will address almost all of #1 but not all , but not #2. Still better than not lapping at all...
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supertool73
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That is if and only if your rifle receiver is straight or your base is bedded properly. It does not matter how good your rings are if your base is not square. |
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cheaptrick
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Well thats your opinion, Sir. If you want to go to those lengths, then be my guest. I probably won't though, but your opinion is duly noted and I fully understand.
Typhoon in a tea cup, if you ask me. (shrug)
Also be advised that lapping on some rings (Badger for example) voids the warranty.
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cheaptrick
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I understand that.
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supertool73
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I am not seeing all these so called high rings marks on good quality rings either. I have lately been using TPS, Seekins, IOR, Badger, Warne, LaRue, and am just not seeing it. I guess there is another reason to buy quality stuff instead of the cheap stuff
I have the lapping bars, but have not used them for quite some time. |
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cheaptrick
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I should have prefaced that I typically run one piece Picatinny rails on my rifles as well. The rails are bedded, per Badger Ord. instructions. Edited by cheaptrick - August/19/2010 at 16:52 |
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stickbow46
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Hey Trick,I've been thinking of going to a 1 piece picatinny on my 5r, can you tell me how you bed the rail.Thanks
As per rings I just got off the pipe with Talley,they have a new ring out thats part ss & part Ceramic.They are sending me literature,but they are pricy approx $220.I've been holding out for SWFA rings but there is no ETA.
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cheaptrick
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stickbow46
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Thanks very much.
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saitotiktmdog
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The info from badger ordinace didn't have anything about bedding the rails, at least not from what I saw. The info I had seen was similar too stock bedding using devcon puddy between the rail and the action. Almost the exact procedure as stock bedding.
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supertool73
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Yeah he is right. Bedding uses actual bedding compound like devcon or JB weld. Without the bedding compound to actually make your receiver straight you are not making it any straighter and it will still flex when you tighten the screws down, which lead to your rings no being square. Badger is obviously assuming a straight topped receiver. Putting locktite on the top of the receiver will only help them to not rust as easy. Which is a problem with steel bases are rings.
These are the best instructions I have found. http://www.murphyprecision.com/Page/Scope_Base_Bedding All the bases I have bedding like this have been very straight after doing it. Make my alignment bars line up perfectly. |
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TheDuke
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A clear concise bedding instruction - Thanks
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stickbow46
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Thanks 73,more towards what I was thinking!
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cheaptrick
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Damn, ya'll like to work more than me....
I'm too lazy to go to all that trouble.
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stickbow46
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Keeps me down in the shop & out of the Ms. sight [:}
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cheaptrick
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Now THAT I get!!
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TheDuke
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Yeah something else to tinker with.
But I do see results on the groupings. Not as big a deal on shorter shooting rigs, but again it also helps optics performance as high spots or uneveness can bind/pinch the scope and besides marks, can affect the optic or operational performance and even damage the scope. If you review the gunsmiths who provide rifle accurizing services, These are part of it and with good reason. I for years never did this, but now do on all my rifles as well as a bedding, trigger adjust (#1) and barrel crown.
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