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    Posted: June/23/2010 at 11:22
I have been looking at getting either a Schmidt and Bender 3-12x50 precision hunter, or a Zeiss Diavari 3-12x56.  What are your opinons on which scope has the edge and why?  I was leaning towards the S&B because i really like the P3 reticle.
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I have Zeiss,Bushnell and Burris. For the money buy a Six X 2-12x50 with a 3P4 reticle. You don't need an objective bigger than 50mm if you have a 30mm tube. Sure S&B is good, but what more are you noticeably getting vs the Burris other than a bigger price tag. How far are you shooting, what game are you hunting etc etc.
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30mm tube has nothing to do with brightness.  And comparing a Burris to a Zeiss Diavari or a S&B is like comparing a Tasco Worldclass to a Bushnell 4200.  Not even in the same League.  
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I am a big fan of the S&B  Have a 4-16 Precision Hunter P3 reticle on my .300 weatherby.  Great mid to long distance set up. The mill dot reticle and ballistic turret are suberb.
 
I only have experience with the Zeiss fl binos and a couple conquests not the diavari so I cannot comment on that scope.  Zeiss glass has always impressed me as well.
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I have the Diavari 3-12x56 with #42 reticle and it is absolutely fantastic, very bright, very good resolution, love the reticle, and the water-shedding coating is worth the $$. 

I've never used an S&B hunter, their tactical stuff is first-rate, can't say from experience anything on the hunters.  BUt I would highly recommend the Zeiss, great glass, great hunter.
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Get whichever has a model config and reticle style you like the best.  Both are fantastic!

Zeiss is much lighter and usually has wider FOV.  It also has greater W/E adjustment travel.
 
S&B has a better illumination system (in my opinion), if you want a lit reticle.  I like the S&B adjustment travel indicator on the turrets, though.  A real handy feature.  I think the S&B knobs feel more positive and they are metal, as opposed to the plastic Zeiss knobs and caps.  Not a huge deal, but given my preference, much prefer the S&B knobs and caps.  This applies to the hunting scopes from both brands, not their tactical scopes.
 
The S&B has a bit more "tunnel vision" on the low magnifications.
 
In terms of image quality, I think maybe I like the S&B just a touch better.  In my samples of each, the S&B seems to have slightly better contrast and better flare control, but they are very close.  Both have equally good low light performance.
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Thankyou for all of the imput. My uncle too has the Precision Hunter 4-16x50 and he absolutely loves it. He can shoot effectively out to 800 yards with his hand loads. Thankyou  for all of the info.  All in all, i think that the S&B may have the slight edge, but with high end optics like that it is so hard to tell which is better.  Personal preference is what i think that it comes down to.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alan Robertson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/27/2010 at 13:28
Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

30mm tube has nothing to do with brightness.  And comparing a Burris to a Zeiss Diavari or a S&B is like comparing a Tasco Worldclass to a Bushnell 4200.  Not even in the same League.  

CDNZEISS- I don't  think that supertool's comment about the Burris/Diavari comparison is a put- down of Burris Six-X (or other high-end Burris) as they are very good scopes in their own right.
They just aren't in the same class as a Diavari, but not much else is, either.

Brightness is determined by objective lens diameter divided by magnification power- as well as glass quality/lens coatings, etc.
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