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cal2506
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Posted: June/22/2010 at 18:14 |
Hey, going to get a browning x-bolt 25-06 next month. I'm trying to decide between a leupold vx-ii 3-9x50 or conquest 3-9x40. I plan on hunting deer before low light. thanks for any help.
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RifleDude
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The Conquest is WAY better than the VX-2! Not even close. The VX-3 series scopes are more evenly matched to the Conquest. In that series, I would look at the 2.5-8X36 or the 3.5-10X40. I would still rather have the Conquest 3-9X40, but the newest VX-3 scopes are very nice and optically pretty comparable to the Conquest.
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RifleDude
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By the way, welcome to OT, cal!
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Ted
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lucytuma
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+1 on the Conquest, the VXII just can't compete with the Zeiss.
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cal2506
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Thanks for the replies. I was leaning to the conquest. What kind of rings and bases do you suggest?
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300S&W
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WELCOME to OT,cal!
ALOT of guys are using these now:
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Rancid Coolaid
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Conquest, no question.
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martin3175
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there you have it !
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jleinum09
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Definitely the conquest, hands down Cal. BTW, welcome to OT as well!!
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Oldtrader3
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I have both and it is the Leupold that has been serviced, not the Conquest, ever.
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bugsNbows
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Another Conquest vote here.
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If we're not suppose to eat animals...how come they're made of meat?
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kicker
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conquest...worth every penny
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Alan Robertson
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I had a VX-II and have 2 Conquests.
There's a reason for that... |
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stickbow46
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Another +1 for Conquest..
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Oldtrader3
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You would think that Leupold would get the message that the VXII is losing to the Conquest and would start a more robust mechnical redesign and better glass and refractive matchupin the optics to improve clarity and contrast. In addition to beefing up their erector design. The non clicking windage and elevation knobs bothers me because it show a lack or regard for precision. and lack of repeatability. They make a less that steller scope to get people to buy their VX3. But the junk that they sell at VXII and below is shamefull. Maybe it worked ten yeas ago with their maketing blitz here they fooled enough poeple and there were no the choices in optics but it is not working now.
If you have a VXII fail in the field are you going to buy the same brand that failed or are you going to buy a Conquest of Swarovski Z3 or maybe some variation of the Minox ZA4 or ZA5. For $399 to $500 you get 3-9x40, or a 2-10x42 (5x) scope that has great optical clarity and click adjusment that return to zero with no issues. The actually click 1/4 inch which is surprizing because mot European scopes click 5 to 7 mm.
I just bought a MInox ZA5 2-10x42 scope and did the box test with it yesterday and dailed various load scope settings and it repeated righ back to where it should through all the tecting. W&E Knobs are easy to read and are prominant . The only downside for the scope was the light construction. We will see how this scope hold up on a .338 Federal which I shoot alot. The knob interface feels a little sloopy but does changs windage and elevation to where you put it with clicks that are spot on accurate Edited by Oldtrader3 - June/25/2010 at 08:49 |
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stickbow46
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I hope Minox is listening,I have a Z5 4-20x50,I encounted the same with the turrets.Great glass & rigth on box test.Also have a very good customer responce...
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Alan Robertson
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Welcome to the OT forum, cal2506. The Burris Signature rings are highly regarded. They will not mar your scope's finish and have optional inserts to correct alignment problems and/or preset elevation- sort of like a 20 degree base. http://swfa.com/Burris-Signature-Rings-C633.aspx Burris recently added a trick quick- detach ring to their ZEE ring line... haven't seen that ring in the Signature Zee's yet, however. The only drawback to the standard Signature Zee rings is that they use a slotted screw to attach ring to base. They are reported to work well when mounted on .50BMG, so no worries. |
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crispycritter
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The VXII is expected to lose to the Conquest. The new VX3 is what they are putting against the Conquest.
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bert gummer
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the conquest and the 25-06 should be a great combo remember the 25-06 has some long legs it's one of those with around a 300 yard PBR hoooooraaa.... If you ever think of whacking things past 350 you might
consider some 4X12 stuff........just a thought....
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slow is smooth, smooth is fast. right?
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powderburn
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Oldtrader wrote "You would think that Leupold would get the message that the VXII is losing to the Conquest" I would be surprised if that is accurate if you could see the real national sales figures. Heck even though there is a cadre of Leupold haters and Conquest proponents here on the forum it would be interesting to see if the SWAF reps here can confirm which is the best seller for SWAF. I'm betting Leupold. Don't take this as a slam to the Conquest as it is a very nice scope and I would like one. The few I have handled in stores however did not leave the competition as far behind as one might believe from reading this forum imho. The 3x9x40 Conquest also sells for $70 more than the VX-ii 3x9x40 here on the SWAF and that's a bit over 25% which is significant to a lot of buyers. So on a national level I would not be surprised to find that Leupold out sells Zeiss by 4:1 or better. One of the reasons that everyone can share an anecdotal story to show that there are leupold failures out there is that there are thousands of them out there and some of them are pretty long in the tooth. I have 3 and 2 are over 20 years old. Ziess just doesn't have that much mileage on the Conquest yet.
Also O.T. you mentioned that the Leupold didn't have click adj. I believe the VX-ii does have click adj. it's the VX-i that is friction at least according to the info on the SWAF sales info. |
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