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Scottyman
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Didn't the PH also have the 4 coil erector?
What exactly aren't you impressed with in the top end of your Z6? Sharpness, resolution...?
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Maine? Where's that?
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Kickboxer
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Well, ILya, I guess the guy from Swarovski was mistaken on what glass was used in his scope. I called Swarovski Optik in Germany and spoke to the gentleman on the phone for about 30 minutes. He told me the Swarovski Z6 glass in the 2.5-15 and above scopes was the same as the Zeiss FL glass. I said "the same glass", he said "yes, the same glass". There was a bit of a language barrier and it IS possible that his comments were meant to convey "same quality". But he said "same glass"... Edited by Kickboxer - June/19/2010 at 14:02 |
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Swarovski Optik is headquartered in Austria, so I assume you called there. They both use Schott glass, and they both use a version of extra-low dispersion glass for one of the elements. In that regard, it is the same glass. However, in that same regard, another twenty different scopes out there also have the same glass. Schott makes a lot of glass for a lot of companies. What you rep meant (and I verified this at SHOT, you can check my write-up) is that all Z6 scopes with top magnification of 15x and above use ED glass of some sort. However, the optical system between the two scopes is entirely different. ILya
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Dale Clifford
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Alan Robertson
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Scottyman,
I apologize- didn't notice that you had said Diavari FL and I made a statement about the Z6 being superior to the Diavari in low light. I'd correct that to say superior to the Diavari T as I'm unfamiliar with the FL model Your eyes may see things differently. |
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Scottyman
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The PH used the Patented Swarovski 4 Coil Spring System. Maybe they had them in different locations? http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f40/swarovski-ph-tds-4-4-16x50-30mm-scope-nib-sold-locally-53194/
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Scottyman
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The 1" AV model used the leaf spring. I'm not sure why Swarovski is giving the impression (actually I know, marketing) that the newer Z models are the 1st to use coil springs.
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The Z5 series are the first of their 1" tube scopes to use the coil springs. The Z3, on the other hand, still uses leaf springs. Z3 is essentially the same as the previous AV series, with only cosmetic and name differences. All of their 30mm scopes use coil springs and have for a long time. |
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