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SamC
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Sam Edited by SamC - May/04/2010 at 22:20 |
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RifleDude
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You are correct. FN owns Browning and Winchester. |
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Ted
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pyro6999
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i just got a deal from remington yesterday in my email, looks like they are going to start selling a 1911 now.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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corky52
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I agree on the .30-30 ammo. Just too many lever guns out there for all of the ammo companies to give up on profits. I haven't been reloading .30-30, but will be adding dies and components for that caliber to my bench.
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I edited the statement made earlier I found the article I was reading and at the end there was a retraction so now I have to do one also.
As to the 30-30 How many remember the 16 Guage shotgun. You can find the ammunition on a very rare occasion but it will cost you out the nose. It disappeared almost over night when the decision was made to cut the caliber in the early 70s. It was a very popular shell up till the time when it was cut. Never say never.
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corky52
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Good point! All the more reason for dies and components.
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SamC
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Sounds like they have a hostile union work force in CT, my guess is they will probably pick up production of Marlin firearms in the Remington factory in Ilion, NY.
Sam
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Remington owns many manufacturing facilities with varying degrees of capability. It would be great if sales could support all of them. It doesn't. They will produce lever guns where they are most efficient.
I can say this, you can't blame the Chinese for this. Consolidation is a fact of life in industry and to become lean is a priority. There is no escape, become lean or perish. I work at Ford Motor Company and I have seen this in a major way. Doug |
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3_tens
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You can not be lean and still maintain high quality. If you can gain control and reduce the entire market so that the overall quality is reduced then you can compete with low quality products. If the quality is high the buyers will go to the cheap crap but then return to the higher quality every time. A company needs to plan for the long haul to survive. Unless the goal is to just cheat the consumers for a short time for higher profits, then change the name and start over again. This can be proved by Zeiss, Swarovorsky and Night force. They have never dropped quality to enter the cheap scopes market. Dropping quality killed El Paso Weaver, Denver Redfield, and has done irreparable damage to Leupold just to start the list.
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koshkin
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High quality and lean manufacturing are not mutually exclusive.
Having said that, Cerberus needs to compete in this market place. They are not in business to maintain traditions and give a warm fuzzy feeling to rifle traditionalists. They are in it to make money. I suspect that the costs of doing business in New England and dealing with the unions made it impossible for them to make money there. While I am sad to see the plant close, I do not have enough information to second-guess their decision. If you feel that Cerberus is wrong in their decision, make them pay for it in the marketplace. Do not buy Cerberus product and let them know why you are doing it. Generally, it is interesting that FN moved Winchester manufacturing out of Connecticut into their Carolina plant. Marlin is likely going to be made inside one of Remington's larger plants and likely for the same reasons: newer equipment and economies of scale. Mossberg, which is headquartered in Connecticut, produces most of their stuff in Texas with quite a few pieces made in their plant in Mexico. Honestly, we may simply be seeing a fairly normal migration of manufacturing jobs to states that are friendly to them. That sucks to the people who have been working there for 20+ years, but if the company can't make money options are limited. ILya
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"we may simply be seeing a fairly normal migration of manufacturing jobs to states that are friendly to them"
I HOPE your right. But my SIL's dad who worked for Winchester,for 40+yrs,quit (took early retirement) in mid March because FN wanted him to go to China. He was in charge of CNC set-up and production.
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