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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Chris Farris II
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Chris Farris II
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That is with my cell phone and is the objective of the scope. It is very picky on positon of the eye before it goes black and the reticle does drown out the image on higher mags in side the scope also. More pics to come once my phone charges back up.
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Cope6.5/284
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Wow talk about giving away position. Hope none of the guys in the service picked these up unknowingly.
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supertool73
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Wow, I am glad Cope brought this to our attention. That really is lighting that up. That is way worse than IOR scopes do it. Thanks for the pic CF2
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cyborg
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Talk about a tactical nightmare. Bushnell better get that straightened out real fast.
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SVT_Tactical
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New nickname for those scopes "green Gooblin"
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USN_Sam1385
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And that is exactly why I didn't want to be a test dummy. It is always good to get a scope after it has been out for a little while. Let everyone else deal with the BS.
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jonoMT
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Are they really aiming this scope at professionals or just the tacti-cool mall ninjas? Some people would probably be really disappointed if all the was lit up was a little + as with reticles like the Gen II mil-dot.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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Chris Farris
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We are getting a lot of complaints and returns on the Bushnell. Three most common complaints in order are:
1. Critical eye relief
2. Illumination leak/bleed
3. Green markings on dials
Here's a few pictures to further illustrate.
It is hard to get a picture of "critical eye relief" so to speak but these images depict what your view looks like if you are slightly off center. Primarily an issue on the higher end of the power range.
Images of the illumination leak/bleed are very easy to take because it is pretty major. Primarily an issue on the high end of the illumination level.
It comes out of both ends but much more from the objective end.
With the lights off it actually projects a beam.
The markings on all the adjustments being green does make them very difficult to read in low light. It was hard to capture it with my camera but you can still tell.
The good news is that you won't have to worry about white markings on your turret giving your position away.
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cyborg
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You would have thought that Bushnell would have done better than this. What a serious disappointment.....
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Cope6.5/284
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That is almost as bright as my Laser Genetics ND3..... Hope they resolve these issues..
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supertool73
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Guess they could start marketing it as a scope with a built in night time illumination device.
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cyborg
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So they are trying to get in on the ND3 market with out having to buy into a trademarked design? That is clever on their part.....
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Chris Farris
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You should not have to have the illumination turned up so much in extreme low light so it should not be that much a problem (I hope). If I were on a two range I would not turn it on. The green markings are a very big problem if you need to make any adjustments in low light. If I were on a two way range I would try to get my hands on a white grease pencil.
The critical eye relief is bothersome. A good stock and proper cheek weld helps a lot. If I were on a two way range I would try to keep the magnification down around 9x-10x.
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koshkin
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Interesting thread. Back at SHOT show I think I pissed off the guys at Bushnell when I did not like the way illumination was executed. Unfortunately, it looks like I was right. As for keeping magnification down to 9-10x or below, then you might as well just get the variable S.S. then. ILya
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pyro6999
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maybe they will listen next year. |
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