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BayouBuck
Optics Apprentice Joined: March/19/2008 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 57 |
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Posted: March/30/2010 at 15:58 |
I done a little searching and see that a few of you on this site have CZ's 527. I am looking at getting one in .223, but have found a few people that have had to shave bolts, use extra high mounts or position thier scope where long eye relief becomes a problem to clear the bolt . Before I go get this rifle, I want to make sure what kind scope to buy and how I need to mount it. Thanks for the help.
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morgen
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luepold VX3 2,5-8x36 and warne high rings will work |
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BayouBuck
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Do you have to mount the scope against the mag ring or can you center the mounts and still get a good sight picture? |
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morgen
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mount the scope as u need, the bolt will clear
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lewwetzel
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The 527 Americans are supposed to come with rings (high.) Most compact or medium-sized scopes will clear with the stock set. The reason most of us who modify the bolt handle, etc. is to enable the use of lower rings and larger/higher X scopes, also for better cheek weld; some of us also don't like the scope mounted up in the stratosphere for aesthetic reasons. www.calhoon.com can modify your bolt for about 50 bucks exchange and shipping. I use Warne medium rings and a Bushnell 3200 7-21X in my 527 .221 FB and still have plenty of clearance between the AO ring and the barrel.
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lewwetzel
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Also: should mention that, even with a setup like this, eyepiece-to-bolt clearance is minimal. Something like a Nikon Monarch with a big-dia. ocular lense might still be a problem.
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lewwetzel
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Check that: it's www.jamescalhoon.com
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montag451
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For what it is worth I just mounted a new Nikon Monarch 6x24 50mm objective scope on a new CZ 527 varmint Kevlar heavy barrel. For my eye relief I had to slide the scope all the way to the magnification ring. The objective end of the scope cleared by about 1/8 of an inch from barrel and the bolt just cleared the eye box so close that I had to remove the scope lens protective flip up cover to make it work. But work it did just fine. I did this with the CZ rings that came with the gun. I can see no way to have gotten this particular scope any lower than it is
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tjtjwdad
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My 6-24x50 Monarch would not clear the bolt using the factory high rings. I contacted CZ and sent my bolt handle to them. They modified it for me, free. My cost was shipping to CZ, they paid the return shipping.
HTH.
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montag451
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That's interesting. Is your scope a new one? I know that my bolt just clears the eyebox but does not touch it. We are talking 1/8 to 1/16 is all for clearance but it does. I am just wondering what it is about our two setups that makes one work and not the other. Glad you found a fix. It will be nice down the road should you decide to try other hi mag scopes.
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tjtjwdad
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It's one of those 6-24x50, SF, FCD reticle. I got it mid-2009. It just parely rubbed but it was enough for me to fix it.
HTH
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montag451
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tjtjwdad,
Yes mine uses the BDC reticule(Nikon Monarch 6-24x50SF) which should not make any difference. BTW when bore sighting I had to use up almost all of my left windage adjustment. I have not had it on the range yet but this definitely bothered me. I just ordered a Set of angle lock millet rings high type for the CZ 527 so I can take up some of the windage before going to the scope adjustments. I will be curious to see if there is any height difference as compared to the factory CV rings. Getting the bolt modified is definitely the way to go and I may end up doing that myself before this is over with. I have yet to find a objective scope cover that I can use and have bolt clearance.
Thanks for the response.
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yoeri
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"angle lock millet rings high type for the CZ 527 "
can you mount them directly on the cz? |
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montag451
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Yoeri,I am afraid that I am unable to give you an answer to your question. I believe that CZ does sell higher mounts but have heard that they are less than ideal not being direct inline for quick acquisition of the target. Sorry! I am sure that any good local gun dealer may have an option that will work. The higher distance for a 50mm objective and bolt face only need be one or two mm to work. That would not interfere with a straight line low profile set up.Regards,Dan
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montag451
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Yoeri,
Sorry about last post as I thought we were talking the CZ 455. Yes the mounts did work on my CZ 527 and it is a tack driver. Three hundred yards quarter inch groups. Very pleased given these 62 year old eyes. Dan
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yoeri
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then that can be a way to solve my problem with my new cz527
. turned the rifle scope to the maximum left and still not able to get the center on the laserbullet's red dot. tnx :)
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De_Tomaso
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I will not go into scope choice in this debate, however I will say that German MAKuick mount offers enough flexibility of ring position (4 different position in a single piece mount) that you will be able to mount any scope of any size on a CZ 527.
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yoeri
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@De_Tomaso :problem is that i have to use all the left adjustment on the scope and still not able to reach the red dot of the bore scope.
for that the millet rings are ideal i hope :) already placed an order for a pair :)
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Oldtrader3
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Medium Warne Maxima rings for the CZ 527 (11mm) mount works just fine on my CZ 527 with a 4-2x50mm Swaro Z3 on it. The Warne medium rings are about 1/8 inch lower than the CZ high rings that I got with the rifle. Plus, I have plenty of clearance (1/16th+) for the bolt handle and 1/4 inch clearance for my 50mm objective lens on the barrel. I am much more satisfied with this ring arrangement.
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Scrumbag
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Does anyone have experience of the new style bolt handles for the 527 from CZ-USA?
Looks to be the same idea as the Calhoon. Still is a pain you can't get it over here! ATB, Scrummy |
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