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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cbm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/01/2010 at 20:26
I keep playing around with numbers to possibly do a built like yours. Yeh a B&C medalist is a fine stock for the cash, a older rem.700 triggers can be tuned just fine for hunting, and rebarreling your action/and trueing it up should get you a pretty awesome set up. But everytime I add it all up..............a Cooper Phoenix or Excalibur will give you the same or more for less money.
 
I have an Excalibur .30-06 and while mine's been an odd ball and had a little trouble it will now shoot factory ammo under 1/2" at 100 yrds. Which the Excalibur comes in only .30-06 family cartridges.....................the Phoenix comes in a fair amount of different cartridges. I am kind of leaning toward the odd ball 6.5-06 that is not offered in a standard rifle............but common sense keeps telling me to go with a Phoenix in 6.5-284 at $1400 !Pretty cheap compared to building a custom rifle unless you can get a dirt cheap gunsmith. To get a guy to assemble, bed,go over everything,and  true the action.............cheapest I've found is $1000+ just for smithing !!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jonoMT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/01/2010 at 20:54
I looked into getting a custom rifle built and decided that 1) a Rem. 700 SS (or my LTR) were just about as good for a lot less and 2) I could then blow the wad I saved on great optics, rings and a mount, as well as Harris bipod. Sure, I'd love to have a BAT action with a high-end barrel, but chose to balance out the whole rig...and still spent enough with SWFA to finance the repairs on CF II's truck. Wink
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Don't think you have to use one of the big name expensive smiths either to get a good shooting rifle.  There are plenty of guys out there that know how to build a good rifle.  The local smith I used built me a super accurate rifle, I have shot many groups less than 1/2 MOA out to 600 yards with it. 

It only cost me about $400 to have may Lilja barrel installed, my stock bedded, trigger done, and a bolt knob installed.  I would have spent 3 times that at a fancy smith and ended up with a rifle that couldn't shoot any better than the one he built for me.
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Ummm, don't ban me, but If I was looking to spend about a grand, this is what I would get.

http://www.snipercentral.com/entrypackage.htm

They have other packages as well.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rjtfroggy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/02/2010 at 05:54
 I just finished this yesterday; Model 12 stainless action(savage) $365,26" stainless fluted varmint barrel(savage) $205, laminate thumbhole stock(numrich) $125, egw rail mount$40,heavier recoil lug$27,=$757.
 Optics still up in the air it will be something from SWFA just not sure yet.
  I now have the option of changing out barrels anytime I want for a variety of calibers.
 Savage is the way to go and build your own,then the options are endless.
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Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

Ummm, don't ban me, but If I was looking to spend about a grand, this is what I would get.

http://www.snipercentral.com/entrypackage.htm

They have other packages as well.


This would be my recommendation as well.  They start off with a Rem700  or Howa1500 action and put them into a B&C Tactical/Varmint Medalist stock.  The price is fair too considering all you get with it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mlv2k5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/02/2010 at 13:20
Forgive my ignorance, but I am fairly unfamiliar with new Savage Centerfires...what is this I keep hearing about being able to change calibers at will via switching barrels? Am I misunderstanding people or does savage now have a system similar to the way you can switch barrel/caliber with a T/C Encore??? 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/02/2010 at 13:34
It's not quite as easy as it sounds. Savage attach's their barrels to the action via a threaded barrel "nut". It can be changed by the owner, but you will need a special wrench to remove the nut and when the new barrel is attached, it still needs to be properly headspaced with a gauge. Naturally, you can only use calibers from the same family of cartridges ie. 30/06, 280, 270, 25/06.....308, 7-08, 260, 243......
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/02/2010 at 14:05
Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

Ummm, don't ban me, but If I was looking to spend about a grand, this is what I would get.http://www.snipercentral.com/entrypackage.htmThey have other packages as well.


If you want a chuckle, go to Mark Bansners web site and checkout the prices on his Alpine series. I believe that is the name he uses for a Howa 1500 stocked "custom" that he makes some cosmetic changes to, adds a High Tech fiberglass stock to and a metal finish that goes for over 2 grand.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rjtfroggy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/02/2010 at 14:41
 Actually there are 3 different bolt heads(maybe 4) and they can be had for about $20 each and the barrel nut wrench is $25 from a few different places(northlander shooters supply or sharpshooters supply) and maybe a action wrench$60 from Midway.
 The actions and barrels from Savage or Stevens are interchangable and the more expierienced guys doing it claim they can swap out barrels without removing the stock in around 15 minutes. Most say about half an hour. I did mine for the first time and it took me a little over an hour but I kept playing with the head space because of uncertainty on my part.
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LOL Roy

Man profit is not a dirty word, but Mr Bansner has got to be making a killing on each sale. "all 3 a year or so"

Appreciate the heads-up on him. I've bought from Sniper Central in the past, and they pointed me in the direction of SWFA when I asked them about fixed power optics. Good guys to deal with.

Defensive Edge makes some nice package rifles, but I'd risk spousal abuse were I to plunk down 2-3k on a rifle with no optics. I hunt with a guy that does have one of the ram country models with a Shepherd scope and it's a fine rifle/ rig.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/02/2010 at 19:57
Mark Bansner's prices went through the roof after he started getting some recognition in the various gun magazines. Don't get me wrong, he builds a very good rifle, however, prior to this recognition (pimping) he was just another good ol boy from central Pennsylvania building accurate modified 700's for less than 2 grand a pop. Same thing happened with Jarrett, Sisk, D'Arcy Echols and a hoist of others. Really can't blame them for getting what folks are willing to pay for their product. Not everyone can turn 2000 bucks worth of parts into a 7-15 thousand dollars "working man's rifle".
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if its more than $1000 it aint a workin man's rifle anymore. its a dream
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Can't really fault a guy too much for making a buck, but I agree, there does seem to be a lot of mark-up on his rifles. The work looks good and I'm sure they shoot nice, but damn, that's a heap a squid for one of his. Shocked
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/02/2010 at 20:45
Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

if its more than $1000 it aint a workin man's rifle anymore. its a dream


I put that quote in there from an article that was in Rifle magazine that highlighted an Echols Legend. Maybe that was a misprint on the editors part. Perhaps he/they meant "working rifle". There must be an awful lot of trust fund babies out there cause I seriously doubt the average working man can part with that much coin for a synthetic stocked rifle.
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i know i cant for sure, i wish  i could.
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The whole issue for me is that I got this 223 Remington 700 laying around, I don't know why I bought it but I did and now that I have it I would really like to get her up to speed for woodchuck and coyote hunting. When I look around at some rifle smithing sites I have to laugh, like I mentioned earlier, when you see their price sheets you'd think they are building space shuttles. That's why I asked if anyone knows of a smith who offers consumers good work at good value.
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how does it shoot now?  What version?  I bet a local smith could true it up and maybe either bed it or get it into a new stock at a decent price..... have you talked to any local smith's?
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

how does it shoot now?  What version?  I bet a local smith could true it up and maybe either bed it or get it into a new stock at a decent price..... have you talked to any local smith's?
It's a SPS Stainless w/24" bb, I got it NIB for a song so I bought it and to tell you the truth I haven't shot it yet but of course I would before having work done. Since one of my intended targets is small (groundhogs) I'd like it to shoot true without having to take out a second mortgage to accomplish that.
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It should be good to go out the box really.

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