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GaryO
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Things seem to change so often; is there any way to keep track of which popular scopes are made by the Chicoms? Thanks...
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Rancid Coolaid
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Good luck getting that from them.
Most people haven't yet noticed the "Made in the USA" sticker NOT on Leupold boxes. |
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GaryO
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However, Leupold does state that the reborn Redfield scopes are made in Oregon right along side the Leupold scopes(I think).
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koshkin
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Not easily. However, if there is a particular model you are wondering about, someone might know. ILya
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Randall45
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Most scopes are being made somewhere in Asia.I hate to think that the Leupold is made entirely in China.Some high end scopes are being made to there specs at a big savings in these factories.
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RifleDude
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They aren't. Every metal and mechanical component (Tube, erector ass, turrets) is made in Oregon. Their lenses aren't. They get their glass from various sources in Asia, which may or may not include China. They aren't forthcoming about where they get it, only to say that it comes from multiple Asian sources. This is nothing new. There are very few consumer items made entirely in the US anymore. Even stuff that says "made in USA" on the product usually has at least some components made elsewhere (i.e. screws, o-rings, etc.).
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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I think I got a made in china --- screw ---- one time.
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HuntMaster
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There are very few consumer items made entirely in the US anymore. Even stuff that says "made in USA" on the product usually has at least some components made elsewhere (i.e. screws, o-rings, etc.). [/QUOTE]
This holds true for German products, also. It is not possible to know where every component comes from.
Could you imagine a Swarovski factory that produced the metal pieces, rubber o-rings and eye- cups, chemical coatings, and even the nitrogen gas that goes in to their products?
Sounds dumb to mention all this, but there are those out there that believe all these items are produced by the same company,and even same location. Edited by HuntMaster - February/02/2010 at 18:16 |
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budperm
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Not sure it fell out of my CRKT pocket knife before I knew there was an issue with the way they attached the blade to the handle. Now I have half a screw so the other half is always loose. What do you do with a knife with a screw loose. I think I got screwed by the chinese, and it looked like such a good knife, didnt last two month before it fell apart. Bet their scopes look good up untill you have them a month.
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budperm
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You can bet on it. WE (Black & decker--Dewalt Power tools) have all our hand tools
made to our specs in China and Taiwan. Same for the Chargers and Battery pack modules. The Chinese are great at copying but their culture inhibits free thought so innovation is few and far between there. WE are extremely diligent in specifying and inspecting our product.
AS long as you your looking they are your best friend and do hi quality work. As soon as you turn your back.... they have a tendency to start cutting corners to save money and reduce production time. At first this was a real battle cause they are co-operative to your face but not so much behind your back. We finally won the war by rejecting several hundred and sometimes thousands of sub-standard product refusing to bear any cost ourselves. That wised them up. Having the clout helps. They make about 1.5 million Dewalt chargers annually so we have the clout! They were our sole source and tested us on this. Now they aren't a sole source and it rocked their world! They used to make 2 million chargers a year. Loosing 25% of that product got their attention.
Even now we catch them doing stuff like changing the test parameters on the end of line tester to improve 1st time yields. Seems this is how the plant supervisors are graded
for performance and raises.
So yes I would be suspicious of everything made in china that is not 100% USA inspected with a fine tooth comb! Edited by budperm - February/03/2010 at 09:47 |
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pyro6999
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bud i hate to be a dick to you, but dewalts batteries suck!!!! they include the charger and two batteries with a tool and the batteries last a year and then they are junk and then you gotta decide do i wanna spend $100 for new batteries or do i wanna spend $150 and get a new tool charger and two new batteries sorry.
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I have a 12V Dewalt my wife purchased for me one year for my birthday, before we left Kalifornia. We left Kali in 1998. Two years ago, the batteries started failing, I replaced one, but both will hold a charge if only for a little while. I have a much newer 18 V Dewalt now and my wife has a 12V and they have been outstanding. I've found that the batteries last better if you recharge and rotate them regularly...
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pyro6999
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we use ours every day at work, my boss finally decided to try another brand. so far so go it made it through this last construction season without a hitch.
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AstroVic
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When I first read this post, something entirely different came to mind. LOL :)
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budperm
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How are you using them? Are you working the packs hard? Cells are also sensitive to heat. Overheating will shorten the life of any cell while extreme cold makes them go inert.
Now thet good news! Since 2004 Dewalt tools have carried a 3 year warranty. I believe the pack carry a two year warranty. Dewalt has always been sensitive to pack and charger
complaints and issues cause of poosible liability issues. If you have pack that died in one year, look on line www.dewalt.com and find nearest service center. If none are convenient then call 1-800 Dewalt. Your will also assuredly get your packs replaced for free!
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pyro6999
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i hate to jack this thread more. we had nicad batteries in 12v and 18v tools, drills saws all type saws and circular saws. we use them to cut pipe and drill holes in plastic septic parts, so they dont abused but the work isnt easy either. we store our electrical tools inside our heated shop during the winter. we got to the point where our boss would go buy 4 new batteries every spring and by fall they would last about 10 min. on a full charge.
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Rancid Coolaid
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How about that Toyota recall, and what about global warming?
I'll check back in on this thread in a few days and see where it has wandered to. Carry on. |
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Kickboxer
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Made in China covers a broad area, but maybe should move to "almost a... g..." if it's not scopes...
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budperm
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No I want to hear this stuff.
The recip and circular saws are the two worst tools on batteries. The recip (sawsall) vibrates the crap out of the batteries and weaken the battery strap welds. The circular is and largest current drain! I never like the 18V circular saw, felt it is wimpy! The 36V circular kicks ass. However the only tools I like in the 36V line are The Circular saw and the 325FtLB impact gun. The gun is great for pulling lug nuts in the middle of nowhere! I am going to venture to say that the short battery life is probably due to heating issues. Were the pack noticeably warm or hot when they came out of the tool?
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