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Newbie929
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I am starting a parts list to do a high-end sniper rifle. Specifically, a remington 700 xcr that I intend to set into a Bell & Carlson Tactical Medalist A5 Fully Adjustable stock, add a bi-pod and I should have the beginnings of a fairly decent sniper rifle less the MOST-important part, the optic. I want a scope that will, in effect, outrange the 308 caliber projectile the rifle will be chambered in. So variable mag is a must and my price range is around $600.00. Ive already done a cheap conversion sporter rifle from a Mosin Nagant 91/30, I put a Burris fullfield 2 3-9x50 on it and liked it ok but i want more range and magnification. Maybe I am having visions of pulling off ridiculously long range shots?? Any suggestions would be great. Thanks
Also- I posted a pick of the mosin just for kicks
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SVT_Tactical
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I use a 10x SS all the way out to 1000yds. Are you looking at poking paper or what?
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Mike McDonald
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A 1x scope will outrange any rifle in any caliber.
Did you have a specific brand, line, or mag range to correlate to your budget number?
If so these guys can pin it down real fast for ya.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Which of the three above appeals to you and why?
You sound like a prime cantidate to buy a 50 BMG or 338 Lapua, did this have anything to do with a bet with your boss?
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Rancid Coolaid
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First and foremost, welcome.
Next, I'd recommend dropping the "sniper" part and possibly substituting "precision", unless you are a billeted sniper or the word is included in the riffle name - as in a Remington Police Sniper Special (PSS.) At what ranges will you be shooting? What is your knowledge and training in precision shooting? I wouldn't plan on any long range shots initially, start at 100 yards and work your way out from that. Precision shooting ain't like what you've seen in the movies. |
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8shots
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Welcome. Rancid has some good advise.
Also put a new custom trigger on your shopping list.
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Newbie929
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Yeah pretty much just to poke paper, but I want it to be there if I need it sort of thing, if that makes sense. I was looking on the swfa website and the SWFA SS 20x42 Tactical Riflescope, Any thoughts on this particular scope? Also, if my choice is rookie-like Hence the name Newbie!
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Newbie929
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A timney drop-in any good for 700's that is what I put in my M-4 and love it?
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Newbie929
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Not really I am open to suggestions from people with more precision experience than me. This is why I made this post.
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Rancid Coolaid
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I'd get a 3-9SS for your rifle, that will do what you need.
Never compromise glass for magnification, good glass beats more magnification every time! For an all-purpose rifle, 20X is way too much magnification. A good smith can smooth your trigger, but yes, Timney makes nice triggers. And, finally, don't skimp on base and rings, get good stuff, Badger, Seekins, TPS... |
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Newbie929
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I am new (Hence the Handle Newbie) so "Sniper" was a generic Term"precision" should be substituted-OK Nope (just a paper-poker) and the rifle doesnt _to my knowledge_have "sniper" in it's title.
I want to basically (ZERO) at 200-300yrds and adjust after that. My reasoning is my M-4 can easily reach to 200yds, my Mosin from 2-300yds, and I am wanting something strictly for 300 plus. Bi-pod proposition only at this point and I realize with this much mag, I will be restricted to "static" Targets only.
My Training or level of knowledge is Beginner at best, but this is something I want to start. After I build the rifle I intend to record every shot I take with it.
I have done the 100yd shots and trained with 22cals at that distance and with the M-4 and the Mosin Nagant. I realize I am not going to start right out and be Carlos Hathcock but I have been trained by our Military and shot extensively after that.
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Newbie929
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Really, none of the above because the first option I have in a Burris Fullfield 2, The Second is not Mil-Dot and the 3rd is out of my price range. If I had to make a choice I would say the Leupold if it was a mil-dot.
My reasoning is listed in the post elsewhere.
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Newbie929
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Which Badger, Seekins, or TPS? Also, How do I post a pic on here the mosin I built doesn't show up?
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SVT_Tactical
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Badger base for a Remington 700...... and rings that match what scope you are getting ie. 30mm or 1"......
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Rancid Coolaid
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In what branch did you serve?
What base depends on what scope; some have too little elevation range to mount on a 20MOA base. Though it is far from the elast expensive, I would recommend Badger 20MOA base, Badger (or Seekins or TPS) rings, and the 3-9SS. |
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SVT_Tactical
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I think a standard Omoa base will work with the SS variable fine to get out to the 100yd mark.
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Newbie929
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Again, I am not interested in shooting at 100yrds i can do that with a 22cal or any other rifle i currently have I am wanting to shoot Long Distances 1-2000yrds and be able to hit a cantalope sized target ie:HEAD-SIZED. I realize the scope is only part of this equation but is an important one.
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Newbie929
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USAF. i would rather spend more and not regret poor quality later.
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Newbie929
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OUCH Though $300.00 for the mount and the rings? Oh well that is extreme for me but i still think its something i can do over time.
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KY Hick
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I was in your shoes along time ago. These guys gave me alot of good advice. I already had my rifle when I got on here. My best advice is this SAVE YOUR MONEY and get something you wont regret. It took me 8 months to save for the rifle, and it took 1 1/2 years to save for the scope(base,rings too).
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