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    Posted: December/29/2009 at 19:50
Hey guys,
I would really appreciate a little input if any of you have any experience with one of the AMT Backup 380's in dao. I have been looking for a Walther PPK in 380 , but just found a pretty good deal on the AMT.
I was just wondering if any of you had owned, or fired one of these nifty little pistols. I am especially curious on the reliability of it- such as if it jams often. I am interested in it because of it's concealability, and it really is not a bad looking pistol.
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I'm sure it's very good choice. I'm old school and like that it has a safety you can see unlike my p230.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tahqua Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/29/2009 at 20:14
A hunting friend of mine has the .45 AMT Backup that looks similar to the .380. He converted it to .40 Cor-Bon and it always ate everything it was fed in both calibers. It is a well made gun with very few edges. Considering it's small size it is comfortable to shoot.
I thought AMT's were always a cut above many of the other small companies making auto pistols. Like you said, they don't look too bad either.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucytuma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/29/2009 at 20:22
A buddy of mine, who is also a county police officer just bought a Walther ppks as his backup weapon.
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If you like revolvers, take a look at the Ruger LCR. Light, 38spl and good trigger.
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I haven't had any experience with teh AMT but like a couple other guys said I am a firm believer that a small 5-shot revolver or similar is a better backup because of the durablilty and ease of use.  I have had keltecs, tomcats, ppks, and well a lot of pocket autos and ALL have at some point failed to eject or run through after time being carried in a pocket holster because of the dirt and grit build up in my pockets. Now I know i could have cleaned more often on these but I have sucessfully carried my airweight for over two years now and when i have pulled it out and shot at the range like i would in a real life situation, it has never failed.  just my 2cents.  Good luck and let up know what you decide.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dale Clifford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/30/2009 at 15:00
you didn't mention the carry. will it be ankle,coatpocket,pants,middle of back,shoulder ??????
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HuntMaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/30/2009 at 18:07
Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

you didn't mention the carry. will it be ankle,coatpocket,pants,middle of back,shoulder ??????
Pants pockets, middle of back. I have several full size autos of various calibers- which is fine during winter months. I just want a pocket pistol for the warmer times( shorts, cargo pockets, etc...)


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You have to be a little careful with AMT.  Depending on when the gun was made and who owned the company at the time, quality can be a bit spotty.

That having been said, their DAO guns were all right most of the time.

As far as small guns go, have looked at Kahr pistol?

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Yes, I looked at the Kahr's, very nice but still a little large. I very much want a PPK, but haven't ruled out a Ruger LCP. I had found a good deal on an AMT, but as of tonight, it is gone.
Between this forum and another I am a member of, the majority says stay away from AMT's Back-up. There were only a few exceptions here.
 As always, Thanks everyone. I respect your opinions very much. I'll let you know what I do when the time comes to lay out the cash.
 By the way, I purchased my Wife a Walther PK380, love it, and haven't ruled out the possibility of getting one for myself.
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I don't know a lot about back up guns, but this little gun has shot well for me.  I've put about 150 rounds through it and only had 1 jam very early on.  


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Longhunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/30/2009 at 20:28
The Kahr PM40s have had problems.  It's a great design, size and weight, but reliability is an issue.
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MK9s seem to be quite reliable.

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PA-63 9x18 makrov vs ppk/pps .380

TAKE THE PPS / PPK DOWN SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE PA-63 AND SEE IF YOU CAN TELL WHICH ONE IS MADE BETTER...
 
...firing pin block safety...and a few other key differences...
 
 
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I really like my little Kahr P380, which is the same size as an LCP/Kel-Tec.  But if you can deal with a slightly thicker gun, get a S&W J-frame....like a 442.  They will go bang every time.  
 
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Before you decide give the Glock 26 a look.

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I have the AMT Backup .380 and carried it for years. I purchased it on the advice of the then Chief of Police, Spokane Washington who carried it, along with many of his officers, as the backup and off-duty weapon.
While it certainly doesn't exhibit the high degree of fit and finish as other makes, it also comes at a very reasonable price. Mine has never failed to feed or function, and I fired it a lot. Because of its compact size, it is not particularly a joy to shoot repetitively, as it tends to work over that area between thumb and forefinger, but plinking and range shooting are not its intended use.
For a reasonably priced and reliable carry arm I find it totally acceptable.
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