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Ted_Nugent007
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Posted: November/19/2009 at 16:37 |
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what is the proper way to break in a rifle barrel
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Steelbenz
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Shoot it, LOL!
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BeltFed
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Shoot it, and when your done, clean it properly to remove copper fouling.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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JF4545
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Then shoot it some more!
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As John B. once stated, "keep the pointed end forward". |
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Aren't you forgetting to throw it on the rock pile till you hear the right tone? |
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Steelbenz
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Dang it, well I am gettin' old. I knew I forgot something. |
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338LAPUASLAP
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I have been told by high end barrel manufacturers that the idea of cleaning in between shots for the break in period is more for accuracy measurements that you or the shooter needs for accuracy confirmation. Also they have suggested to use a progressive 1 then 5 then 10 then 20 then 40 then after each interval you think you need to. I use Gunzilla it is a TOP Duck Product and it seems to work very well... I have talked to some Custom shops that say every other shot for 50 then every five for 100. Also heard every for 50. I have read the JB articles and they make perfect sense...I would think the average John Cleanbore does more damage than good every bullet for the first 50...
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Roy Finn
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John Barsness
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Let me summarize my experience:
Most barrels (that is to say, factory barrels) are a little rough. Each bullet that goes down the bore when it is perfectly clean will smooth it SLIGHTLY.
Some people are convinced that you must clean the barrel perfectly between each round for 10-30 shots in order to break in a barrel "properly." This is OK if you absolutely need the barrel to be shooting it's absolute best within 30 rounds (as some target shooters prefer) but for most hunting rifles, if you clean it perfectly every 10-30 rounds while working up loads, it will break in just fine.
Some barrels even shoot their very best right from the get-go. This is more common with top-notch barrels than factory barrels, but it happens with factory barrels as well.
On average I shoot at least 15-20 new barrels a year (sometimes much more) and long ago grew too weary of the 1-shot-clean routine to pay much attention to it, especially since there was little evidence that it resulted in magic accuracy. In my experience is barrel is either going to shoot or it isn't, and when the barrels that shoot are broken in they will shoot a little better. But it doesn't matter a heck of a lot whether you clean it after every shot or after every 10-30 shots until it smooths up.
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Trays 7940
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My tactical rifle builder and Shilen say the following:
1 shot- clean the barrel then use a copper fouling cleaner ( I use sweets 7.62) on the barrel.
Do this for 10 shots.
5 shot group- and clean as before.
Do this until the copper fouling is gone.
I have never had to use more than 20 rounds to break in the barrel, however, results vary.
Good Luck!
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JF4545
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I saw Ted Nugent in Seattle in about 1976 or '77. Crazy Times!! Ted puts on a great show, at least he used to. I clean my rifles when they are dirty. Ive not ever used any kind of break in process. Maybe there is something to it, maybe not....
Edited by JF4545 - November/20/2009 at 14:16 |
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BeltFed
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I've got a little more time now, so...... Using a Savage 10fp as an example. When I first started with this rifle I was not impressed with the accuracy. I started working up loads to see if I could improve the accuracy. After each session at the range shooting groups, I would clean the barrel using one of the foaming bore cleaners that was for copper fouling. I apply the foam to the barrel and let it set over night, and then use a jag and dry patch to remove the foam. I repeat with dry patches until they come out clean. After the barrel is clean, I use Tetragun bore treatment on a patch followed by another dry patch.
My groups have shrunk to sub MOA, but I can't say if it's the cleaning or the developed loads. I suspect it's a little of one and a lot of another.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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Ted_Nugent007
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HEY ALL THANK'S FOR THE TIP'S ON BREAKING IN A BARREL! JUST MOUNTED MY SCOPE AND BORE SIGHTED. MY HARRIS BI-POD CAME IN AND SINCE MOUNTED IT ON MY REM 700 308 VTR THE RIFLE LOOK'S AWESOME WISH I COULD POST SOME PICTURES BUT I JUST HOPE IT SHOOT'S AS GOOD AS IT LOOKS THANK'S AGAIN FELLAS REMEMBER KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY LOL TEDDY
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Protect the crown of the barrel and if possible clean from the rear using a plastic bore brush guide to keep the rod centered. For rifles like an M1a where you can not run the rod down from the back use the type where you drop the string down the barrel and pull the rest of the cleaning bore snake through.
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mike650
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Dewey bore guide is another solution when the only access is through the front of the barrel (10/22, M1A, etc). |
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mike650
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First time I saw Ted at Winterland (SF) was soon after the release of his first album, he was already "headlining" concerts.
Click >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYOV8uu17t0 Edited by mike650 - November/21/2009 at 17:47 |
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