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Conquest 3-9x40 vs. Monarch 2.5-10x50mm |
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Palehorse
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Posted: October/21/2009 at 12:18 |
Last minute upgrade before deer season. Which one and why; thanks in advance.
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trigger29
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I think the Conquest has great glass, the 3-9 configuration is very practical for hunting, and 40 mm gives good mounting height. I like my Monarch, but love my Conquest even more.
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pyro6999
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i agree with you jason, the monarch is no slouch, but the conquest is for sure better. |
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danjojoUSMC
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Is the Conquest really that much better when you can get the Monarch for 60% of the price?
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John Barsness
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In my experience the Conquest is tougher. If everything else is rated equal, toughness tips it for me. You can't hit something if the scope is out of zero.
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trigger29
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Have beat myself to death with a lightweight .300 wby. Conquest has laughed at me, and keeps on truckin'. My nose isn't so fortunate.
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John Barsness
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That has been my experience as well--except my Conquests have been mounted far enough forward that I don't get whacked! They have GREAT eye relief--if the mounts allow.
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mike650
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Another vote for the conquest.
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cheaptrick
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I also love the Conquest, but have had a 3.5-10x fail and never a Monarch. Or any Nikon for that matter.
I do think the Conquest is a better scope than the Monarch over all, but only slightly.
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bugsNbows
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I'll also vote for the Conquest. I only have one now, but it has displayed zero issues to date.
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jonbravado
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both scopes are good for the money - is the conquest 60% better than the monarch? no.
I have beat both without mercy and they both hold up fine. In 95% of scenarios, the monarch will perform as well as the conquest. In my opinion of course - whatever that is worth. |
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FunShot
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At the power you are taking about, for me the monarch and conquest are arguably equal when it comes to image alone. It will all boil down to your personal preference. Overall the conquest is arguably the better scope and if you have the money go for it.
I've done a side by side comparison of a monarch and a conquest, under 10x power, image quality is very similar. Above 10x and specially 12x + and most evident at 20x, image clarity and resolution is better on the conquest. I have the side focus models and with 20x power on both scopes, i get better resolution and contrast on the conquest on far off objects like more than a kilometer away. Under 10x, monarch or conquest, you can't go wrong with either. Let me warn you though that before 2009, there are lots of factory smuggled philippine made scopes, either defective, below standard, or reject scopes that have made it out of the factory onto the black market, specially nikon and bushnell legend scopes as well as a few burris scopes so be wary of your purchase of one and make sure you order only from reliable sources. |
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Randall45
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Rancid Coolaid
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The glass in the Conquest is appreciably better.
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3_tens
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To me there is not much advantage in going from the 2-10X42 Monarch to the 2-10X50 other than you have a lighter wallet. For your stated hunt in mind, to me there is no contest. Go with the Conquest. If you are worried about seeing the Reticle in low light get the #4 reticle in the Zeiss. It stands out very well. Also it is not offered by Nikon.
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trigger29
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Palehorse
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Thanks all, this will do nicely :D
http://swfa.com/Zeiss-3-9x40-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P5400.aspx Edited by Palehorse - October/26/2009 at 22:49 |
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cbm
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I have a 6x42 monarch and have about 3-4 Conquests ............2 are 44mm ! The Nikon is clear and suprisingly bright in low light for what it cost. I don't think it's quite on par with the Conquest but is more than adequate for deer hunting.
The biggest difference I can see with them is the reticles. The standard Nikoplex is very thin and is hard to see in low light IMO !! It also get's "silvery" in bright light..............I think the Conquests win hands down in this area and are worth the extra $$ IMO !!
Also I am not a big Zeiss #4 fan............while it is the best low light reticle I have seen , it is very thick and obtrusive IMO ! I think the plex is very good in low light and gives a better sight picture for normal shooting situations ! Edited by cbm - October/27/2009 at 06:00 |
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DAVE44
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The only thing I dont like about the Z plex is while the outer heavy posts are great the middle of the reticle has very thin lines...they could be a little thicker.
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