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scavaleru
Optics GrassHopper Joined: October/11/2009 Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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I want to buy my first rifle.The target will be deer,moose,bear.The range:2-3-400' .For the moment I looked to Winchester 70 Featherweight,Remington 700 BDL and Ruger 77 MK 2 (Howkeye).Caliber 30-06 or .308 Win.For the scope I didn't decided yet.
I am open to different choose because I don't know very much(I am a beginer).The money range:1000 dollars(just for the gun). Thank you for the answers. |
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lucytuma
Optics Jedi Knight Joined: November/25/2007 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 5389 |
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I love your choice of a .30cal, be it 308 or 30-06. As far as scopes are concerned, its hard to beat the normal "3x9" power range, this is the most competative area for scopes and provides the best value for dollar. There are a wealth of scopes available in this power range, from $100-$$$$. I believe the best values are to be found in the $200-$500 range. An example would be 3-9x40 Nikon Primos @ $230.00 for the dollar conscious, to the 3-9x40 Zeiss conquest @ $500.00 and there are countless good scopes in between.
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SD Dog
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+1 Personally I like the Rugers, but any of the rifles listed are good. If possible, try to pick each brand up and see which one fits you the best. .308 or .30-06 will both work. If I had to fall off fence one way or the other prob 30-06 for hunting because you can find factory ammo in any hunting weight about anywhere. Scopes - what he said. So many good ones in 3x9 and great values too. |
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Sgt. D
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The Rem 700 in 30-06 would be my choice. It will hold value and is probably the most popular of the three. With your budget look at the 700 mountain or the Sendro (may have to find a used one for budget) because these are usually tac drivers out of the box. As mentioned before ammo is easy and a very good variety as you can load light for deer (130gr.) and heavy for Moose (180gr or more). The link below is an example and will let you look at alot of options. The laminate is a good choice as it doesn't change to moisture and temp like standard wood. Synthetic is another good choice and usually effects price some. If your scope budget is about the same as your rifle, as mentioned before you have some really good options. The Ziess Conquest is probably the best for the money in comparison to the rest. Good Luck! Let us know what you do. And Welcome to the OT.
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I'd look at the CZ550 also.
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budperm
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Hey don't forget Savages. Accuracy out of the box is hard to beat and so is the price!
I love both mine! 270W & 223W. both under 1MOA out of teh box...no tweaking!
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scavaleru
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Yes,first of all I need the accuracy to the rifle.I thing this is more important.
But for the scope I'm not decided from 40 to 50. |
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Trays 7940
Optics Master Joined: August/09/2009 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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Remington 30.06 ... Here is a Pic of mine... Its the only one my wife said I could never sell...
Remington 700 with Laminated stock from Richards...
Accuracy???
She hits the mark...
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cyborg
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Beautiful rifle there bro.
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trigger29
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May want to look at the SUB-MOA Weatherby Vanguards also. They are a great value, though not as popular as the Remington. They are guaranteed to shoot less than 1" groups, and they only label rifles that shoot .75 or less as SUB-MOA. I loved mine, and wish I had it back.
Edited by trigger29 - October/15/2009 at 17:46 |
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budperm
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+2, I reallyu like the red/black Lamy, looks sharp!
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Preston
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I'd go with the Ruger 30-06
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pyro6999
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the nice thing about the ruger is the fact that they do have the controlled round push feed. ive handled a few of the new hawkeyes, and from a form and fit stand point they arent to bad. they have a three position safety and the triggers on them have improved vastly. im a remington guy most of the time.
Edited by pyro6999 - October/15/2009 at 21:29 |
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helo18
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Love my Remington. Love my Ruger. Not sure which way I would go there. Hard decision on the rifle. There are so many nice rifles out there, and many of them shoot very well especially if you hand load. Probably lean a bit towards the Ruger. Just have a place in my heart for Mauser actions, and the those based on it. Caliber choices are good, although I prefer the 300 Win Mag. Would like to pic up a 264 Win Mag some time too.
Edited because I am absent minded. Edited by helo18 - October/15/2009 at 22:32 |
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martin3175
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Wouldn"t hurt to find somewhere to "try them on ".. Everyone will have their individual favorites, but eventually your choice will be yours.. Some rifles just seem to fit some folks better then others, and you should find a shop that has examples and give them a try .
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pyro6999
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you rang about a .264win mag sir??? well here is mine a m700 |
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They call me "Boots"
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budperm
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Nice stick Hunter. Pretty grain pattern of that stock. I would be tempted to put a high-gloss finish instead of oiled with wood that pretty.
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rjtfroggy
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Find the Savage rifle in your choice of cal. you will never be sorry.
After you choose your rifle you will probably have enough left for a ss 3-9 scope.Now you won't give it up.
Go to www.savagearms .com choose center fire rifles and look at all the different models.
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budperm
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+ 100 on the Savage. Why pay more than you have too??? |
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martin3175
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Sweet 270 wanta-be CDL you got there Hunter
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