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CornFedHusker
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Posted: July/10/2009 at 17:46 |
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I am having a lightweight 270WSM delivered in the next week or two and I need to scope it. Trued Rem700, McMillan Hunter's Edge, 24-inch Shilen #3. I'm expecting it to go 6 or 6.5 pounds. I'd like to keep the scope compact and within 9 to 13 ounces. I generally dislike larger/heavier scopes on mountain-type rifles.
I'm thinking Leupold VX-3 2.5-8x36 or Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8x32 or Swarovski AV/Z3 3-9x36. Are there any others that I shold consider? I would love to to go up to the Victory or Z6 models, but the size and weight don't necessarily fight what I'm trying to achieve with this rifle.
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CornFedHusker
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Fight? Perhaps I shouldn't drink beer and read about UFC 100 while I post. The Victory Diavari and Z6 scopes don't MATCH what I'm trying to achieve.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - July/10/2009 at 18:02 |
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CornFedHusker
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Used a 6x36 last year and still have a 4x33 on hand. I do like fixed scopes as well. Never fired past 250 with them though.
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Horsemany
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As I was reading the OP I was thinking VX3 2.5-8x36. I don't care for the large ocular's of the Zeiss or Swaro on a lightweight rig.
I've got a Conquest on a Sako 85 in 270wsm. It is suspected of not holding zero. Next range session the rifle will be tested with a known scope to prove or disprove.
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I aboslutely LOVE the Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8x32. It has excellent glass and extraordinary low-light performance. Toguh as nails, too.
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Big Squeeze
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Compromises, compromises!......The whole point with a light rifle, is to own a light rifle WITH the scope`s weight included. Imo, it does little good to own a lighter rifle to then mount a heavier scope on it. Defeats the whole purpose of the lighter rifle concept.
The 2.5-8x36 VX3 would make an excellent choice for your 270 WSM. However, the Zeiss Victory and the Z6 will give you the better glass but along with more weight. That is where your compromising must be done,,,,,better optical glass quality vs less weight.
Regardless of scope brand, if you can keep your overall rifle weight within 7 to 7 1/2 lbs (preferably within 7 to 7 1/4 lbs ), that should work just fine.
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Rancid Coolaid
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My light-weight stalker 270 wears a Swaro and I couldn't be happier, 3.5-10 ballistic plex. It has enough power, but not too much, and is relatively small and light.
The Conquest would work too, but if you aren't trying to save a few $ (which I doubt you are, with a McMillan stock and Shilen barrel), get the Swaro. |
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koshkin
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Here is a discussion we had on tweener scopes a little while back:
I did not include the Swaro 3-9x36 in there because it is a little different from what I defined as a tweener, but it is an exceptionally good lightweight scope. If you are looking for a 3-9x magnification range in as light of a scope as possible, Swaro would be at the top of my list. ILya
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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That would be where the reticle - "long range duplex" (which has two additional hold over marks below the intersection of the cross hairs), comes in to play. There is a lot of price difference between some of them in the smaller scopes. For a hunting scope I would rather have a 7mm exit eye pupil so 6x42 or 5x35 or 4x28 but you can always dial down the power to get there on a variable. While the glass is not super impressive on the Weaver it's not bad and they are legendary for their ability to hold their zero even when abused. The 6x Leupolds are too.
Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - July/11/2009 at 00:34 |
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JF4545
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I have a Kimber 270 WSM SA 6lbs.10ozs. and Ive ordered a Leo VX-3 4.5x14x40 30 mm with CDS at 15 ozs....... unloaded it will weigh about 7.10 lbs. Sling & Ammo Im guessing 8 lbs total.
But Im looking at another '09 Kimber Stainless Classic in 243 or 7mm-08 which weighs 5lbs. 10ozs. and I will probably put a lighter weight scope on it. For medical reasons I cannot handle much recoil so I cannot get them to lightweight or I have to stick to smaller calibers.
This one I would like a Swaro 3x10x42 on.......
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CornFedHusker
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I've been looking at the Kahles 2-7x36 on Ilya's recommnedation in the tweener scope thread. Browsing the technical specs on that scope, it appears that it has consistent eye relief. That's a plus. Has anyone used a Multizero scope? Did you like it? Useful or not? |
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CornFedHusker
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One more Q -
Is the new Swaro Z3 series just the old American series in a new tube? I'm curious about that. Did they make any internal upgrades? I've owned Swaro American 3-9x36 and 3-10x42 models. I never experiences zero-retention issues like some have. I'm a bit leery to put one on a lightweight magnum, but I have heard good things about Swaro customer service.
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boliodogs
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I have been buying scopes for a number of rifles. Two of the scopes I just got in recently are the zeiss conquest 2.5-8x32 and the leupold 2.5-8x36. On my fairly accurate scale the zeiss was 13.4 or 13.5 ounces the leupold 11.1 or 11.2 ounces. The Zeiss has about .5 inches more eye relief. Both have enough eye relief for your rifle. The Zeiss has a little more f.o.v. at low end. The Zeiss has thicker crosshairs for the thick part and both have thin hairs in the center. The leupold thick hairs come a little closer together than the Zeiss before the hairs get thin. I love both scopes. the zeiss is .25 inch longer overall. The eyepiece length is the same on both scopes. |
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JF4545
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CFH, The new Z3 is the old American Series, yes. I called Swarovski Tech Support and they told me the only NEW features about the Z3 are the slimmmer look and an additional coating for better low light condtions. They may have stated the new coating purpose in different terms than that. But thats about it, its mostly to make the Z3 (American Version) look like the Z6 ..I really like my Swaro and I plan on buying another...
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CornFedHusker
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I've got it narrowed down to a Kahles 2-7x36 or Swaro 3-9x36 if I go variable. If I go fixed, it's hard to beat a 6x36 or 6x42 with ballistic reticle.
I think I'll wait until the rifle arrives to make a decision on size/weight. I have several scopes here to use as a guide.
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brodeur272
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I have 3 Kahles 2-7 MultiZero scopes and think it's probably the best balance. FOV is better at the low end and eye relief is pretty consistent. The prices they can probably be had for is pretty comparable to any of the above listed.
Just my 0.02...
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The Kahles cl 2-7 is an excellent scope, I have one on a kimber .260 and love it, though mine is not a multi-zero.
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