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    Posted: April/02/2009 at 14:01
A-Square makes brass for the 6.5-06.  My uncle and I have talked for years about getting some beater rifles at a gun show or using one of our mausers and converting them to 6.5-06 ourselves.  I guess we would have to do up a few to make up for the cost of the reamers and go nogo guages.  But I have been a fan of the 6.5 since the first 1913 swedish mauser I bought 13 years ago. 
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Looks like Hart chambers barrels in 6.5-06.  Hornady, RCBS and Redding all make dies for it.
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Originally posted by mwyates

Why not just shoot a .260 Rem?  You don't lose much at all to an '06 size case.   See .308 vs 30-'06.




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Originally posted by Steelbenz

Originally posted by mwyates

Why not just shoot a .260 Rem?  You don't lose much at all to an '06 size case.   See .308 vs 30-'06.




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if you want to push the envelope a little look at going with a 6.5-06 AI almost .264 win mag performance.
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Originally posted by pyro6999

if you want to push the envelope a little look at going with a 6.5-06 AI almost .264 win mag performance.
 
Uhhh...............then why not just get a 264 Winchester to begin with??    Peeker
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly

Originally posted by pyro6999

if you want to push the envelope a little look at going with a 6.5-06 AI almost .264 win mag performance.
 
Uhhh...............then why not just get a 264 Winchester to begin with??    Peeker
 
No belt
Less shoulder gap between new case shoulder and chamber
More brass availability (considering you can use 30-06 brass)
More efficient amount of powder to velocity ratio
Longer barrel life
Less recoil
Less muzzle blast
Easier to find an appropriate powder
 
I have had a 264 win mag and now have a 6.5 rem mag.  IME it is much easier to find a load pushing a 140 gr bullet at 3100 fps than trying to find one in the 264 win mag pushing the same bullet at 3250 fps (my spreadsheet shows red highliter all over it showing pressure signs on the 264 win mag page).  It is hard to find a slow enough powder to use in the 264 win mag.  With the 6.5-06, 6.5x284 or the 6.5 rem mag the case capacity is less and many powders like IMR4350, IMR4831, RL19, H4831, RL22, IMR7828, H1000 or RL25 or entirely appropriate.
 
Personally, I like a bullet that starts out between 2900 fps to 3100 fps because if you have a close shot the bullet may not get squirrely on you and blow up or pencil through.  I'm a heavy bullet 3000 fps guy and the 264 win mag is too much.  The 6.5-06 would be just right.
 


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http://www.bullberry.com/encore.html
You can get an encore barrel from bullberry in a 6.5-06 or a 6.5-06 improved WOW
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Originally posted by Tip69

what is the metric equivalent of the 30-06.... 7.62X?  The .308 is 7.62X51 I think.  what is the 7.62X54?  Wondering how close the Swede comes to the '06.
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Posts: 3920 		  Quote Dale Clifford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/03/2009 at 06:58
6.5/06 is ballistically identical to a 6.5/284--  the euros like metric so 7mm and 8mm Brenneke  is the 7 and 8mm/06 equiv. Out to 500 yds, most of the 06 class of cartridges all shoot the same.
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