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    Posted: May/01/2005 at 21:21
I am looking at upgrading my scope this year. I shoot a Weatherby Vanguard 7mm mag and currently have a Redfield 3-9x40 5 star. I am wondering if any of you have any thoughts on Nikon Buckmaster scopes vs Pentax Pioneer. I have 2 teenagers so my budget is limited. I hunt deer and elk in Texas and Colorado. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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They are both good scopes. The Pentax Pioneer is actually the same scope as the Burris Fullfield II. Burris makes them for Pentax and they are a good scope for the price you pay. I also own a Nikon Buckmaster and it has performed flawlessly in the field. I used it on my .50 cal muzzleloader for the past few seasons. I do not think you could go wrong with either scope.
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I'm with Sniper, the BM is a great scope for the money. I haven't looked through a Pentax, but the reviews are pretty good too.

 

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wileywapiti:

I use a Nikon Buckmaster 3x9x40 on my Weatherby MkV, 7mm Wby Magnum.  It's a dandy.

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The best mid range scopes are:

Burris Fullfield II

Bushnell Elite 3200

Leupold VX-II

Nikon Buckmaster

Weaver Grand Slam

 

The Pentax is made by Burris and you can get pretty much the same scope with the Burris name for less.  I would highly recommend the Weaver Grand Slam 4.5-14x40 for your application.

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Chris,

 

I am interested in the Pentax 4.5-14x42 Pioneer scope but can't seem to find what kind of lense coatings is has? full coated, multi-coated, etc.

 

How does this scope compare to the Bushnell 3200 5-15x40 and the Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 sidefocus in terms of brightness at dusk and clarity?

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Pentax Pioneer is a re-labeled Burris Fullfield II, i.e. fully multicoated.  It is better than Elite 3200 and better than a previous generation Buckmaster.  I have not seen the new Buckmaster, so I can not comment on that one.

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I have never looked throught the Pentax Pioneer but I own the next scope up from it in the Pentax Whitetails Unlimited and I love the scope.  It is very clear and built like a tank.  Yeah its ungly looks like a mag light sitting on top the rifle but a very good scope.

 

If the Pioneer is basically a Burris FullField then its going to be a good scope.  A friend of mine put a FullField on his sons rifle and I got to shoot it a few times and the scope is very good for the money.

 

Cant comment on the new Buckmaster, the older one was a good scope but I would still give the Fullfield the edge in clarity and brightness.  The Bushnell 3200 is a good scope but again I think the Fullfield/Pioneer would be slightly brighter.  The 4200 is AWSOME but considerbly more $$$.

 

I would have to agree with Chris and say out of the scopes that he recommended I'd go with the Weaver Grand Slam.  It will be a little more money then say a FullField but in my opion the optics are a step up in clarity and brightness.  I know some people don't like the power adjustment ring because it looks strange to some but that is cosmetic. I think if you hunt in areas were it snows or where you will be wearing gloves the scope ring adjustment is great.  I also like the over all shape of the scope, to me it looks fresh and new. The scope is a great buy, the optics will shock you on how clear and bright it is.   I have been totally impressed with the Grand Slams when I compared them to other scopes in the field. 

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Fully multicoated would be great. I thought I had read somewhere that it was basically a renamed Fullfield II, but then I happened to find some info on cabelas website that said it was fully coated and not fully multicoated. Anyway should be a good long range and evening scope on my 270 win.
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