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mnshootr
Optics GrassHopper Joined: April/25/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Posted: April/25/2005 at 10:55 |
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I am putting together my first long range tactical rifle in 308 win. Shots will be between 300-800 yards maybe 1000 if I can do my part. I would like a varible power with a top range of 14-16 and a max obj. lens of 50mm. I have mildot scope now and like it, but would like a reticle with more percise ranging ability,such a TMR or MLR. Durability, consitant tracking, ease of use and of course price are my concerns.
The two I am looking at now are the Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x50 M1 and the Nightforce 3.5-15x50.
What I like about the Leupold is its size, TMR and it should cost a lttle less than a nightforce. I considered the M3 knobs for there simplicity but as handloader don't want to limit myself to one load.
What I like on the Nightforce is the MLR, the zero stop feature, and the big range of adjustment. But it is a lot bigger and heavy compared to the mark 4. I also dont know that I would use a illuminated reticle enough to justify the added cost.
Are there any other scopes I shoud consider that are comparible to these two? Of these two which do you think is better? Since neither SWFA or my local dealer sell Nightforce do you know of a good source for them?
Thanks for any insight you can offer. All this rifle needs to be finished is a scope but I'm too to make up my mind.
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Deak
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Both of those scopes are great, I would have to give my vote to the nightforce with the added adjustment range. The .308 will drop a bit so that is something to put high on the list if you want to go to 1000m. Better? It depends on who you ask and what they like. I know of military guys that "love" one or the other or neither. Just goes to show that at the level you're talking about quality is great, and it comes down to the features that you, the shooter value the most. Weight over the adjustment, that sort of thing. One last thing to consider, my friends overseas mentioned that many of them are progressing into the day/night optics realm with the technology coming along as it is. That stuff is way out of most of our price ranges though! Hopes this helps.
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mnshootr
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After more web surfing I found another possibility to consider. The Nikon 4 - 16 x 50 tactical seems to fit most of my needs. It seems to have a little less adjustment range but other wise compares very well. How do you all think it compares to the other two?
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cheaptrick
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I like all 3 scopes you mentioned.
My next "tactical scope" will probably be the Nikon Tactical though. The lack of elevation can easily be compensated for by using a 20 moa canted rail, like Badger Ord.
The Mark 4 would be my last choice, but all 3 scopes would be fine. |
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Mithran
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I'm going to start a you know what storm with this but I have to say it. Get a Super Sniper fixed 10x42mm or 10x42M (side focus)
Save your money, buy more ammo, and other things you may want for your rig. Even though the scope is not a variable its probably one of the best tactical scopes out there. Optic quality? redneckbmxer24 rates his above the new USO he bought for a M40A3 look a like. More than enough adjustments to get you out to 1000 yards and a little further without a 20MOA tapered base. Mine is crystal clear and am easliy able to down 500 yard targets (due to only a 500 yard rifle range) repeatadly. Maintains zero and box drill is right on.
$800 + for a Leupold or Nightforce or $300 + for a scope just as good. Seems an easy choice to me. SWFA has plans to make the Super Snipers variable, but thats well down the road.
Many SS owners have them on .50 cals so they will hold up.
This is just my opinion though. |
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David
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ots03
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Leupold is good, but nightforce is better
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dilligaf
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Mithran has an excellent point. I have yet to own a SS but I have seen one and did a side by side comparison with my Leupold MK IV 10x. Every review I have read was correct. They are comparable with $ 800 - $ 1000 scopes. My next project will have a SS 10x sitting on it. I would strongly encourage you to invest in a 20 moa base if you plan on shooting extended ranges. You will end up buying one down the road anyway. You might as well bite the bullet on the cost and get one now.
Joe |
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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The true answer is that it depends on why you want a tactical scope and what you will ultimately do with it. I personally do not like the nightforce scope it is big and "Klunky". My first choice for a Police sniper rifle is the Leupold
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Want the BEST? - REALLY? - Take a deep breath.............. Schmidt & Bender PM2.
Yes! It is expensive. - but so far I've found nothing that comes close. Not even other Schmidt & Bender, and they're good.
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