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Chris Farris
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Posted: March/09/2009 at 14:47 |
It takes a while to get used to an angled spotter because your eye and head are not looking in the direction of the target, but once you get used to it they are great because of the different ways they can be used.
You can easily use an angled spotter at the range with out having to move away from the rifle, just turn to your left and look through it.
You can easily use an angled from a stand or vehicle to look to look much further to the left and right compared to a straight.
I prefer an angled from the bench or stand and a straight for walking and stalking hunting because of how much faster you can get on target. I use it without a tripod. I just rest it on a solid object and if there are not solid objects, I use my back pack while in the prone position.
Overall if I had to pick one, it would be a straight because I use a spotter more in the field than I do from a bench of fixed location.
What do you prefer?
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RifleDude
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Overall, I prefer the angled, since I use mine from a tripod and angled doesn't require the tripod be setup as high as for a straight. The lower the tripod is setup, the more stable it is against movement, wind shake, etc. Also, if you are sharing the spotter with other people of varying heights, the angled doesn't have to be readjusted for the other people, since it's comfortable to just bend your head and look down. As a spotter is tilted at differing angles, it's easier to accommodate the relative change in eyepiece position with an angled eyepiece since the scope is already set lower in relation to your head with an angled scope.
If I were using a spotter without a tripod as you are, or possibly viewing through a car with a window mount, I would prefer the straight.
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pyro6999
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ive never used an angled scope before, but i could see where it would be a nice feature. but like chris mentioned its so much faster to just raise a straight scope up in the field on a stock. i guess i would say straight, although its a biased opinion.
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Chris Farris
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Actually the angled is the way to go in a vehicle because you can look behind and in front of the vehicle (by rotating the angle to the left or right side) without having to reposition the vehicle and you don't have to lean back to see through it like you do a straight.
There have been a few companies that marketed a spotter that goes both ways but none have been very high quality.
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RifleDude
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Yeah, I can see what you're talking about if you're looking behind and in front of the vehicle, where you can loosen the mounting collar and rotate the scope to the desired angle. I was thinking due to the height of the window and roof restrictions, it might be more of a pain if you're looking straight out the side, 90 degrees to the side of the car, and need the eyepiece positioned vertically.
I originally wanted a straight scope, but I got a good deal on my angled model off the Sample List, so I went that way. Like others, my initial concern was that it would be harder to acquire distant objects and track moving objects with an angled scope, however, once I got used to aiming down the scope body, I haven't found that to be the case at all.
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Chris Farris
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Many spotters actually have open sights built onto the side of the spotter to aid in acquiring distant objects.
What kind of spotter did you get?
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lucznik
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I've almost always used straight spotters and so; I find angled ones to be a bit awkward. I know they work and even have advantages but, I've just never spent enough time behind one to get used to it.
Angled only works from a window mount, if there is a mounting collar like RifleDude described. Otherwise, it's just a total pain in the a$$.
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RifleDude
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Mine has the sights molded into the sun shade and I do use them. I bought a Leica Televid APO 77 you had on the Sample List. It was in like new condition, and I simply couldn't believe my ears when you offered to sell it to me for only $400 with the eyepiece!!!!
You had a Zeiss Diascope 85 on the SL that I originally coveted more, but it sold before I could make up my mind. Still, the Leica has been good to me and hasn't been much of a compromise at all vs. the Zeiss. I like the dual ratio focusers on the Zeiss, Leica, Kowa, etc. better than the helical focus ring on the body, so that was a deciding factor in my choice.
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anweis
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I used straight spotters for more than 20 years. These days i use both without even noticing a difference. When i first started using an angled spotter i needed about 2 hours to adjust, after which using it became instinctive. I have no clear preference for either but i prefer angled for the 50mm spotter (most used these days) because it allows me to use a shorter and lighter tripod.
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jwp475
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I prefer the angled without a doubt. In the hunting fields or at the target range the angled gets the job done for me. When I first got the angled I thought that I had made a mistake, but after I got familiar with it and how to acquire my target I love it. I take no longer to acquire my target than I do with a straight.
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Duce
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I prefer the angled for benchrest and varmint shooting just easier to use but I still have not found just what I want in a spotting scope still looking at all kinds but I think I want it to do too many things like high and low mag and a wide field of view.
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muleycrazy
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I like the straight mainly becuase its what I have used most and it just seems fast for me to get on subjects.
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Tranan
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I prefer angled because it makes it easier to watch objects in trees, rooftops or other types of heights easier. I use my scope for stargazing as well and that's when the angled one makes it easier.
Another problem with using the scope on a tripod is the that the image shakes, especially in windier conditions. For the straight scopes to reach the level of your eye, one needs as previously stated, to raise the tripod more which will increase its instability. If you happen to be a longer person that will feel even more disturbing.
I do however agree, to it taking a longer fraction of a second to identify the objects as the eye has to ajust itself to another angle. It is however rarely a problem and one gets used to it fast.
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coyote95
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always had a straight,got my first angled and finding the advantages that the members of this forum write about to be true. thanks. the straight also has its advantages that the members here write about, so it seems it really comes down to how you are going to use the scope. all i know is i'm loving this new found adventure.. thanks Kevin
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skywalker
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straight........just seems better to me. I might could get accustomed to an angled, but will stick with the straight for now.
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BeltFed
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Angled for me. Off a bench, or shooting a high power match it's just easier to get to the ocular. I had a little trouble finding my target at first, but after a little use and using the body to aim the scope, it's not a problem.
Still shopping for a better replacement.
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The angled if better for me shooting targets. Just turn your head without getting out of position. Went on an Antelope hunt and it was almost worthless. Riding in the truck stopping and trying to get on the antelope in the field was very slow. For hunting a straight would be much easier and faster to use checking out the game.
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Angled...
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That figures. You stay a little off center most of the time.
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