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rancocasrich
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Posted: February/23/2009 at 19:47 |
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I am new to the forum and can maybe get some education about my spotting scope usage. I bought a Nikon Fieldscope EDII a couple of years ago at the local Audubon Center. My plan was to use it for birding. We live in a natural setting with a large selection of birds. I set up the Nikon on a (cheaper) tripod in the living room in front of a large picture window with a view of wetlands. That is the good part......
I have never gotten any level of comfort using the scope. I find it really difficult to focus in on my subject without trying to locate it without the scope first. When I find the subject, I can really get close for a good view but only after a struggle finding it. Someone told me I need a spotting scope and not a Fieldscope. I was told this scope is for a camera. Can anyone help me with this? I really want to use the scope but am frustrated with it. Thanks. |
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lucznik
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That "someone" doesn't know what they're talking about. Ignore them.
The Nikon Fieldscope is a spotting scope. Fieldscope is just a clever name they came up with to distinguish their high-end line from other spotting scopes. What you need is practice. That's all. There's no magic. The more you practice getting "on target" with your spotter, the easier it will become. By the way, are you sure you have a "Fieldscope ED II?" I don't believe it ever came as an ED model. Perhaps you actually have a Fieldscope III ED? Edited by lucznik - February/23/2009 at 21:32 |
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What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
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anweis
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1. Put a newspaper or cereal box or something at 100 yards away. You should be able to read very easily and the letters should be very sharp (the 1" letters). Vehicle license plates should be sharp and easy to read at 200 yards or more.
2. If step 1 is true, practice, practice, practice. I mean, use that scope.
3. I am guessing that you have a zoom eyepiece. The zoom eyepieces for Fieldscopes are sharp and bright, but have a narrow field of view. If finances permit, try a 20x WA eyepiece. You will be pleasantly surprised by the improved image quality (they are sharper and brighter than the zooms). With a field of view much wider than the zoom, the 20x WA eyepiece will allow you to find subjects faster and easier.
4. If step 1 is not true, you need eyeglasses or you need to send the scope to Nikon for repair. Edited by anweis - February/24/2009 at 06:03 |
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rancocasrich
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Folks, That is a good start for me. Thanks so much for your suggestions. It is giving me some hope. I really want to like and to use the scope. I will work on the ideas today.
I have a Nikon Fieldscope ED2. I have an eyepiece that is a Nikon (Japan) with numerals 60 20-45x and 78 25-56x On the lens is the code D=60 P. Can you tell me what the codes are? The tripod is OK but inexpensive. Does that matter much? Where do I price a wide angle eyepiece? What do I need to know to buy the eyepiece? I am in the Philadelphia (USA) suburbs and there is a shop downtown that sells scopes. Is there a site on line? Thanks. |
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anweis
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Fieldscope pieces (various models) should work on all Fieldscopes (various models and sizes); the magnification of an eyepiece will depend on the size of the Fieldscope.
Large store that cater to birders usually have them, or fleabay.
Do your homework carefully.
For about $130 you will find nice Manfrotto tripods.
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lucznik
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I'm not sure what the P stands for. It would not mean "phase corrected" as the Fieldscope is a porro prism optic and so; doesn't require/recieve phase coatings.
Edited by lucznik - February/24/2009 at 09:44 |
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anweis
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Fieldscope eyepieces work on all fieldscopes as far as i know - but not in other series of scopes, such as Sky and Earth, Prostaff, EDG, etc. The larger the scope, the more magnification out of the eyepiece. The problem is, i can't see anywhere an eyepiece that would give you 20x-30x wide angle in your 60mm scope.
Nikon is known for bottlenecks in their supplies. Now they seem poised on introducing their new line of EDG binos and scopes. There are 20x WA digiscoping eyepieces out there, but they don't have a rubber eye ring - just a groove for attaching the camera. Edited by anweis - February/24/2009 at 11:55 |
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anweis
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OK. I found out. The digiscoping eyepieces come supplied with eyecups for eye observation.
You may want to try the #7460 Eyepiece (20x in 60mm) or #7460 (24x in 60mm).
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rancocasrich
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Anweis, I really appreciate you help. Where do I find the eyepiece #7460? are there 2? one 20X and one 24X? I am a total newby in this area. Thanks
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anweis
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Just google "Nikon MC Series Eyepiece #7462".
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anweis
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The Bogen/Manfrotto 128RC/190XB tripod kit would be just fine for stable views.
Good luck. Have fun.
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rancocasrich
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I see the #7462 for about $200.00 +/- On Ebay the 7464 can be bought for $110.00. It is item 140294448644
Is the 7464 similar? Am I saving money if I buy it or spending bad money? Thanks again |
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anweis
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#7462 will give you a wide angle 24x magnification in your 60mm scope. That is about what you want. They are commonly sold for $100-150.
The #7464 will give you 40x magnification in your scope. That is too much power and not enough field of view for a fixed power eyepiece.
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rancocasrich
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I am tracking a 7462 eyepiece. I set up signs at 100 yards and 50 yards and am doing well practicing with my scope. I have new confidence and am anticipating my new eyepiece. I am hugely appreciative of your help and suggestions. Any further opinions are welcome and encouraged. Thanks so much.
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rancocasrich
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Was able to find and buy the #7462 w/a Nikon eyepiece on EBay. I look forward to getting it and trying it with my fieldscope. Thanks for the help. Is there a camera adaptor for the scope?
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anweis
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Let us know how the wide angle low power piece works.
Yes, there are digiscoping adapters out there. I don't use any.
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rancocasrich
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The eyepiece arrived today. It is very nice and Nikon. I am very happy with it. I can see so much more and everything clearly. I look forward to using my scope finally. Thanks so much for the help. It is greatly appreciated. If you are ever in the Philadelphia area, I work as a tour guide and will take you on a tour as a thank you.
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This was interesting to follow and it had a happy ending, good work guys.
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rancocasrich
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The Optics forum folks have been a big help for me. Now, I think I will try to get a better tripod to use with my scope. I am trying to stay around $100.00. I realize there is a section here for tripods but I figured it fits here because of the whole package I am building. I may also post on the tripod forum. Any help is appreciated.
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