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    Posted: February/21/2009 at 20:03
What's your opinion? Is this a great enviro friendly product that woks well or will users destroy their fine barrels because of its abrasive qualities? I've used it for years and personally feel it is a great product,but many barrel manufacturers frown on abrasive cleaners. The fact that it is marketed by Remington eases my fears somewhat. This cleaner is not really a bore paste ,rather its abrasive components are suspended in a plant based oil. Please voice your opinion on this product .GOOD or EVIL?
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I have never used precisely because some of the top barrel manufacturers do not recommend the Remington cleaning products.  Good enough for me to exclude from my cleaning solutions.  There are many more that are recommended.  Could be wrong, but not worth the risk, to me. 
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I believe this is the same stuff they used to sell called Rem-Clean. It almost appears to be a substance like J-B compound only more liquidly. If that's the case, it's safe. I believe the barrel makers error on the side of caution. Whatever you decide to use make sure you use a good bore guide during cleaning.
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I use a product called EEZOX it is a synthetic product not enviro friendly but it works well hardly any smell and acts kinda like a moly coating in a way. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/22/2009 at 04:58
Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

I believe this is the same stuff they used to sell called Rem-Clean. It almost appears to be a substance like J-B compound only more liquidly. If that's the case, it's safe. I believe the barrel makers error on the side of caution. Whatever you decide to use make sure you use a good bore guide during cleaning.
 
If they are one and the same, there should be no problems. I've used Rem-Clean for years on a variety of firearms with no ill effect.
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 I think that if you're careful not to damage the crown, a little fine abrasive work occasionally may actually extend usable bore life, even though it is actually removing a tiny amount of steel. (I'm believer in firelapping, so far, based on very limited experience.)
 My theory is that it controls the inevitable roughness that normal throat erosion often leaves in that portion of the bore.( Under a borescope it sometimes looks like cracking dried mud.) The rougher it becomes, the faster the rate at which it erodes.
 If you can smooth it out a little every time you clean, you prevent some of that thermal/electrochemical/galvanic /corrosive/friction damage (or whatever technical processes it all involves.)
 Use a muzzle guide of some sort though. you do not want any cleaning rod contact at the crown, regardless of solvent type used, but especially with an abrasive.
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Thanks, Ron.
 
I "should" have stated in my post that I use Rem-Clean
rather sparingly. Around every 5th cleaning or so. I see no reason to use it more often than that.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RONK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/22/2009 at 12:15
 I've never used that particular product, but I was kind of speaking in vague terms about my thoughts concerning any mild abrasive use. (I really like JB products, for instance.)
No doubt it can be overused, or can certainly cause real damage in clumsy hands, but I  was trying to convey my thought that just because something is "abrasive" is probably not, in and of itself, a valid reason to avoid it completly.
As your use of it has probably demonstrated to you, it can have real merit if used judiciously.
 
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