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    Posted: January/27/2009 at 23:04
Can anyone help me with this, I need a 1-4x Illuminated and being a Nikon fan I wanted the new Monarch African, however it is $600 more than the standard plex or even the ol slug hunter. The Bushnell 4200 is $400 and the Leupold is Somewhere in the middle. With the militayr discount I can get the Leupold LESS than a nikon african.
 
Will the monarch african prices come down to be more realistic? I was expecting a $400 price point not $8-900. I am not prepared to commit the same amount on my AR optic as my entire pre-obama rifle.
 
Any suggestions, my buddies keep telling me not to buy the non-illuminated as I will not be able to shoot 1/2 the time.
 
 
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Why not go with the 4200 elite ..It is an excellent optic and at your price point
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I agree, Nikon has always priced their products compedatively.  I have not physically seen the new 30mm african series scopes, but they must be pretty nice to garner the prices their asking. 
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I hear great things about the 4200. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ccoker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/28/2009 at 20:09
I had the 4200, it was decent but nothing too exciting

I have always been a Nikon fan but the price is very, very steep
had 2 IOR 1.1-4, neither one impressed me much

The Meopta Kdot is very nice and has daytime ill but is way too bright for night hunting

I think the new Triijicon Tr24 1-4 30mm is going to be very hard to beat


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trijicon TR24- whne are these coming out?
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"Soon!"

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rancid coolaid, what price range will these be? I see the TR21 around $600, if it that much I may just go Leupold?

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Hope for $700, expect $1,000.

I'd take a TR21 over a Leupy any day, but that's just me.  And so much the more with the TR23.


Personally, I'm putting up with a Millett and waiting for the Tr23.
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They are on the Trijicon site now for a retail of $900, which means expect around $700 I am guessing.  http://trijicon.com/user/parts/parts_new.cfm?categoryID=5
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As soon as Chris has one, it is mine!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ccoker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/29/2009 at 15:10
which reticle are you getting ?
 
I am very, very interested in one as well for my 6.8
I have been quoted 699
 
 
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My source says March on these and probably $700 for a street price.
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chris has a couple for $579
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/29/2009 at 17:34
Keep in mind that Vortex should have a new 1-4x24 scope in the Razor line some time this year.  It is an interesting design with a somewhat uniques illumination system.  I will keep you posted as I know more.

That having been said, I liked the 1-4x24 Trijicon too.

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Originally posted by hunterco hunterco wrote:

chris has a couple for $579


that's the 1.25x4, 1" tube
not the new 1-4 30mm
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HI,


Question on the TR-scopes the new one,is it listed as TR-24 or 23,I do not see anything with 23.The new one coming out is it the cross- hair,German 4, or is it the mil-dot you are looking at, or would get?,Thanks,Kev
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/30/2009 at 16:00
I saw three different version of the post/triangle retice and a #4 with bright dot.

I would probably go with the post/red triangle combination.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rancid Coolaid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/30/2009 at 17:02
Please, someone correct me on this:  it seems the eye relief on the TR21 is 3-48 inches and the eye relief on the "new improved" TR24 is 3.2, that can't be right - LESS eye relief?


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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Please, someone correct me on this:  it seems the eye relief on the TR21 is 3-48 inches and the eye relief on the "new improved" TR24 is 3.2, that can't be right - LESS eye relief?


If that is so, my whole plan is toast!
 
According to the specs, the TR24 has 50% more FOV than the TR21, so it's entirely conceivable it could have less eye relief.  Longer eye relief often comes at the expense of less FOV and vice-versa.
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