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Chris Farris
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If they fell apart because of poor quality we would not sell them. We do not get any more returns on them than any other brand, if we start to then we will discontinue carrying them. Not everyone can afford a high end scope. There is a market for low end products and this is true in any industry.
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lucznik
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I can accept that.
I've only looked through a very few Barska products (a couple of binoculars, and a spotting scope) but what I've seen makes me think that a consumer would be better off not having optics at all, rather than wasting money on the stuff Barska produces. In each case I couldn't get anything at all focussed. Who knows though, maybe I just haven't seen anything but their very lowest and worst quality crap.
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What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
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tahqua
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Bravo! When someone asks about cheap optics they deserve an answer that some of us can't provide. I wish we had more members that used the low cost equipment to help these folks out. That being said, since I have used BSA and own a Leapers scope, the lower cost lenses should be in fixed scopes that should concentrate on mechanical integrity. Maybe that is too much to ask of the bean counters and ad people at these companies. Huge zoom ranges and high powered magnification predominate at unusable levels because of them. |
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lucznik
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It is true that you don't need to pay thousands of dollars for your equipment to be of reasonable quality but, there is a minimum level of investment that has to be met and/or compromises that have to be accepted in order to get something that will actually perform.
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smitty
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I might be an odd one but if I could have the same awsome eye relief and fov that my 60mm Excursion has but was fixed at 30x , could see bullet holes at 300 yards, and cost $50, it would be everything I want.
Actually, give me a smaller fixed 30x50mm FLP Excursion and I'd be thrilled!
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trigger29
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Well that may be people who don't know that they could look through the fixed power scope and see more, because it's not as crappy as the 60x variable? Don't get me wrong lucznik, I'm not disagreeing with you, and am no expert in spotting scopes, or marketing. Just trying to understand how someone can pay $50 for one, and whine when they can't see through it. Now as soon as you find one of those scopes you just described, let me know. I'll take a whole truck load of them right now.
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budperm
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Get in line Trigger... I get 1st dibbs since I started this String!
WOW this string has gotten a mind of its own.
Personally I think any company that pumps out low end product packaged to emulate the good stuff, hurts us all and causes tremendous confusion for us that are novices. I also think that the "Peter Principle" is in er....full swing... when it comes to guns and their Optics. The PP has helped justify the high end pricing even more than the low end stuff has. If its low priced no-one wants to trust it, quality wise....Like wise if its expensive...it must be good. And of course with PP in place ALL BRAGGING RIGHTS ARE RESERVED FOR THOSE WHO LAY DOWN THE BIG $$$$.
Thats one of the things that I love about this site The gloves are off and I get honest experienced opinions instead of Marketing hipe! For the full spectrum of products
I smell something....Oh! my soap box is smoking
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carbuyersfriend
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Bud, You bought some really nice gear at Xmas so why stop now. Like Chris pointed out, SWFA offers a 110% price guarantee so take him up on it !!! I just checked the Samplelist and there are some nice spotters out there for under $300. My choice was the Leupold 15-30x50 Compact set. Because..... its a great scope, sized right for range or field use and is complete with all the goodies. As your Daddy pointed out to you and you seem to agree with guns and gunning equiptment last longer than women ( you need to explain that more fully to me as I love my woman !!) so why skimp now. Side Note....when my spotter from SWFA showed up the handle on the case was broken. I just called Patty in Customer Service at SWFA and she sent a new one out the
same day even before she had mine back !!!.....they also paid me for the return shipping. You can buy anywhere but the proof is how you are handled when there is a problem. Good luck and great shots !!!
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carbuyersfriend
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Bud...... Additional info....Remember ....if you don't treat your wife like a thoroughbred she'll turn into a Nag !!!!
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Have a great day ...unless you have something else planned
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budperm
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[QUOTE=carbuyersfriend]
Bud...... Additional info....Remember ....if you don't treat your wife like a thoroughbred she'll turn into a Nag !!!! <QUOTE Brother did you just hit the nail right on the head. American Princess syndrome!!! I have come to the conclusion that most american raised women have It...Their Poopy doesn't stick and need to be constantly showered with gifts. Also the MAINTENANCE! Manicures, pedicures, hairdoos. clothes jewelry. Granted I SPEND money! But 90% is on durable goods I'll have in 20 years not nails that have to be redone every 2-3 weeks. Ultimate consumers they are with little to show for it. WHEW!!! calm down Bud.... Sorry....
My last girlfriend was 1st generation Sicilian. She came over to America at the age of 14. Very frugal, excellent hygiene, always nicely dressed without spending a fortune. and most important...NOT FULL OF HERSELF, you don't realize the difference until it you experience it first hand.
Sorry she moved out of state!
Man, I read this back and it sounds like I hate women. I don't, really! I am just fed up with spoiled american ones! You know....the centers of the universe.
DONE VENTING!
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carbuyersfriend
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Bud,
Buddy. Dr. Lara's on the radio for all of us. Give her a shout !!
LOL !!!!
Regards
Mark
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Bird Watcher
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GEEE!!
Just mention the name BARSKA and we end the post by calling in the female SHRINKS. Desperate measures! 8>) |
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budperm
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Don't worry BirdWatcher...she stopped accepting my calls months ago
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Bird Watcher
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Us guys from Lake Erie, Pa. ARE somewhat unstable.
Must be something in the drinking water. 8>} |
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budperm
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you drink ????WATER???? Hay EEEDDDD!! another one slipped under the fence!
I used to takle this out of Dr. Laura but had to stop after I told her I have multiple personalities. She started billing me 3 times for each phone call.
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Bird Watcher
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[QUOTE=budperm]
I told her I have multiple personalities. QUOTE] Don't WE all?! |
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anweis
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Bud, what do you think of the bridal industry and about spending 2 years worth of income on weddings, and rings, and diamonds, and "because i am worth it", and being so focused on wedding dresses that they forget to look at who they are getting married to, only to realize that "that's not the horse that i wanted momma" and divorce - which is also alot about money?
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carbuyersfriend
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OK GUYS....Maybe we are having to much fun here (is that possible?) and need to really focus on important life issues....like which knife is best for dressing out elk or which beverage is best in camp after a hunt or anything doing with laser rangefinders. Gotta be careful or Chris will shut us diwn.
Mark
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budperm
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Chris Farris
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Me??? never!!! Ya'll crack me up.
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