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buddylee432
Optics GrassHopper Joined: January/02/2009 Location: Odessa Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Posted: January/02/2009 at 20:31 |
Ok, I am new to the SWAT Sniper team and dont know a whole bunch about sniper scopes. My department is buying us new scopes for our rifles and they advised us to research and find a scope that we want. I currently have the Leupold 4-14X scope but it doesnt have mil-dots or lighted reticles. I am looking for a 4-16X scope which has 1/4 moa adjustments, lighted reticles, and mil dots. I dont care about the price. It is going on a remington 700 sniper rifle. I need some ideas of what scope would be best if someone could help me out. We shoot from 50 yds up to 600YDS. Thanks for your time...
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exhogflyer
Optics GrassHopper Joined: October/30/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 49 |
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"Don't care about price"......
Boy, I wish I was you, hahaha!
Well, you might look into some of the top tier scopes, such as, Schmidt and Bender,US Optics,Nightforce, Leupold Mark 4.They'll be available in almost any reticle and magnification range you'd need.For your purposes I'd say 4.4-14 or 5-20 range would probably fall about right.Some others on this board may be able to recommend a specific scope possibly, good luck!
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State Arms Rebel .50 BMG
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Mike McDonald
Optics Journeyman Joined: September/01/2004 Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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Odessa Texas by any chance?
If so, drive up to Lubbock and look at the Sheriff Dept gear. That team is 1st class all the way.
Your department WILL care about price. All the Homeland Security funds are dried up.
edit; bit my tougue on the last comment I was gonna make. We'll see where this goes. Edited by Mike McDonald - January/02/2009 at 20:52 |
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rifle looney
Optics Master Joined: November/21/2008 Status: Offline Points: 2553 |
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Don't care about price well then look at the premiere scopes? that will knock ya fer a loop!
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Rancid Coolaid
MODERATOR Joined: January/19/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9318 |
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If price is not object, break out the checkbook, it's gonna get expensive.
You want the best OR the best $1,000 will buy? As LE, Leupold gives a good discount and the scope is good - but not great. If your budget is indeed limtless, look to US Optics, S&B, or Nightforce (I cannot yet recommend Premier for a duty gun, too new.) Good luck, and remember that tracers work both ways. |
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lucytuma
Optics Jedi Knight Joined: November/25/2007 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 5389 |
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Don't care about price, your lucky I'm not a tax payer in your county. I'm sure you want the best product for your tax payer dollars, I don't have a problem with that. I also realize that these scopes will be protecting you and the people who will provide them. With that said I'd look at Leupold, & Nightforce they offer alot of different options while still being reasonable in price.
Edited by lucytuma - January/02/2009 at 21:14 |
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learjet
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man, go up to the Badlands(grandfield,ok) and speak w Sherrif Whittington. ive attended one of his LR CLEET approved rifle classes, and the information and training recieved was top notch. theres some fine LE and professional shooters out there, who have done what u will be doing, and im sure they would give u some good info, and mebbe even let u see, touch and possibly shoot some of the scopes u might be considering.
you have a great resource 6hrs from your location
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optik
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In fighting, milliseconds make the difference between life and death. Money should be no object to make sure that our boys get the best equipment available. Above quote spoken like a true bureaucrat. Life or death situations tend to put things into perspective.
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rifle looney
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optik...... I think you should reread lucytuma' reply? and not between the lines.
Edited by rifle looney - January/03/2009 at 10:55 |
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optik
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Rifle, you are probably right.
LE Snipers, in the past, have been required to make shots that are extremely precise... Especially in hostage situations. If someone was shooting over my wifes shoulder at a bad guy, I would want him to have the best scope, not the best scope for the money.
We spend, as a country, too many "taxpayer" dollars on rediculous things to be worried about whether our police snipers priceshop for the most "bang for your buck" optics.
Buddylee, buy the best scope you can find regardless of price and be proud to do it!
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cheaptrick
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I'm just curious, but whats the average distance a SWAT shooter has to make a shot on a perp?
Seems like I read where the average shot was around 100 yards or less.
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buddylee432
Optics GrassHopper Joined: January/02/2009 Location: Odessa Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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The average urban environment shot is 52 yards...However, Our state qual course requires shots at 300. As for all of the comment of " I dont care about the cost" I really dont. A sniper has one shot and one shot only. He or she is the one that has to be responsible for that shot. I want to make sure that when or if I have to take the shot I am sure of my target and know I will make the hit. If you have had to take this kind of shot before then you know what it is like. I just really wanted to know what the most practicle scope would be for my position. Just to get some ideas. Wehn you have a 25 MPH full value wind and you are at 300YDS the scope does make a difference...
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Steelbenz
Optics Jedi Knight ROLL TIDE ROLL Joined: January/03/2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Status: Offline Points: 5153 |
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http://www.swfa.com/pc-13521-284-schmidt-bender-3-12x50-police-marksman-lp-34mm-riflescope.aspx
When price is not an object to get past the wife. |
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"Don't argue with a fool! From a distance you can't really tell who's who!"
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Steelbenz
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Now go see if your department doesn't care about cost?
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"Don't argue with a fool! From a distance you can't really tell who's who!"
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koshkin
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If cost is no object, then the choice should probably between the S&B, Steelbenz linked above and this Zeiss:
http://www.swfa.com/pc-8504-310-zeiss-3-12x56-victory-diavari-30mm-rifle-scope.aspx ILya |
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Dale Clifford
Optics Jedi Knight Joined: July/04/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5087 |
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slippin a shot past the wife at those ranges could be done with a 30-30, slippin a new gun past -- now thats a challenge, then on the other hand maybe you don't want them to miss.
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Mike McDonald
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Well I'm beginning to get sniffles here.
Don't know much about scopes and thinking of a shot at 300 yards in a full value 25mph wind...........................awwwww what would I know anyway...................
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optik
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LOL I suppose there was an element of drama to my previous post... Oh well.
The point is still effectively illustrated. The suituations faced are real and serious and I hate to hear people whine about "taxpayer dollars" when it comes to getting the right equipment for the job.
Thanks for the ribbing.. It keeps me honest.
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Steelbenz
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Ya Mike, what the heck do you know!!!! LOL Just tell me what matches your shooting in so I don't have to show up and waste ammo. LOL |
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"Don't argue with a fool! From a distance you can't really tell who's who!"
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dsrrising
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Hi i found a nice scope u might like (ATN, 1st Generation Night Vision Scope, Paladin MK390 4)
What an excellent 1st Generation Night Vision Scope. The Paladin MK390 from ATN is one of a kind. ATN improved their configurations, in turn lowering the F-stop factor, allowing more light to travel through the lense and increased resolution. Another improvement is the industry leading 450mw infrared illuminator, allowing for even more ridiculously excellent night vision. In addition, the red on green reticle aiming system allows for extreme precision
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