OpticsTalk by SWFA, Inc. Homepage SWFA     SampleList.com
Forum Home Forum Home > Scopes > Rifle Scopes
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Some optics observations
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Visit the SWFA.com site to check out our current specials.

Some optics observations

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
Author
Message
RifleDude View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
EVIL OPPRESSOR

Joined: October/13/2006
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 16337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/01/2008 at 17:29
If I had to choose between a really good bino or a really good riflescope, I would put my $ into a really good bino, since if you use the bino properly, you'll spend far more time looking through it than the scope.  You can get a decent quality riflescope for $300 - $400 that will have you covered for most situations.  Ideally, if it's in the budget, I would obviously prefer to have both a top drawer bino and scope, but you can get an above average scope for much less than you can an above average bino.
Ted


Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.
Back to Top
lucznik View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master


Joined: November/27/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1436
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucznik Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/01/2008 at 17:46
I don't know that it is really possible to truly match your optics. 
 
Assuming you are at the very least always using quality equipment, then you will always be able to see better with your binoculars than with your riflescope.  Just the fact that you are using both eyes with the binoculars all-but gaurantees this.
 
I would venture that even a moderately priced binocular will "see" better than even the most expensive riflescopes - when set to comparable magnifications.
What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
Back to Top
Gunshow75 View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice
Avatar

Joined: December/23/2004
Location: Kentucky, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 209
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gunshow75 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/01/2008 at 18:02
Originally posted by lucznik lucznik wrote:

I don't know that it is really possible to truly match your optics. 
 
Assuming you are at the very least always using quality equipment, then you will always be able to see better with your binoculars than with your riflescope.  Just the fact that you are using both eyes with the binoculars all-but gaurantees this. ...

Lucznik, these are excellent points and I agree completely. Since binos engage both eyes at the same time, they allow more indistinct objects to be engaged by the brain and provide up to 20% better color perception and contrast than scopes. I have seen some estimates of up to 40% better, but I have not personally seen that much difference.


Tom



Back to Top
SamC View Drop Down
Optics Professional
Optics Professional
Avatar

Joined: October/01/2007
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 902
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SamC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/01/2008 at 22:42

Last year I broke down and bought a a pair of Vortex Razor binoculars and they are simply amazing! I can now see and identify things that used to be out of bounds.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
Back to Top
helo18 View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Knight
Optics Jedi Knight
Avatar

Joined: December/02/2006
Location: Montana
Status: Offline
Points: 5620
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote helo18 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/02/2008 at 23:32
JonoMT, A little off topic, but where are you at in MT?  And where were you hunting?  Just curious since I am in MT too.
To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

GEORGE WASHINGTON
Back to Top
supertool73 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar
Superstool

Joined: January/03/2008
Status: Offline
Points: 11814
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote supertool73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/03/2008 at 17:51
Binos might allow you to see better than a scope of the same optical quality.  But I guarantee using a quality scope will make your hunt better.  In my case if I would have had one of my IOR scopes, I am pretty sure I would have been able to make out those elk at 300 yards where the 4200 could not.  
Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own."
Back to Top
Kickboxer View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Moderator

Joined: February/13/2008
Status: Offline
Points: 23679
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kickboxer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/03/2008 at 17:53
Originally posted by SamC SamC wrote:

Last year I broke down and bought a a pair of Vortex Razor binoculars and they are simply amazing! I can now see and identify things that used to be out of bounds.

Porno movies don't count...
Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.154 seconds.