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Obi Wan Kenobi
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Posted: August/23/2008 at 18:09 |
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Got a question for you guys about magnum rifles. I own a 7mm Rem mag. I don't hunt with it often but I have killed a few nice bucks with it. I prefer my 06 & .270 so I only shoot it a few times a year. Maybe 2 boxes of Winchester ammo. The gun is a Browning A bolt hunter.
I was at the rifle range with it today & this guy told me that magnum barrels don't last very long. He was shooting a Rem 700 with what appeared to be a sniper set up. The gun was very heavy & the barrel was really fat. He told me that magnum barrels for the 300 are only good for 1,000 shots.
Is that true? I always figured a gun properly cleaned & serviced will last between 5k-6k shots with regular factory ammo.
I'm in the market for a 300 wsm, actually I've fallen in love with a Sako 85 I plan to buy very soon. My second question is recoil & weight. This gun weighs 6 5/8 lbs my 7mm mag weighs 7lbs without a scope. With a scope it weights about 9 lbs & the recoil doesn't bother me. Will a 7 lb 300 wsm loosen my teeth with recoil? Edited by Obi Wan Kenobi - August/23/2008 at 18:11 |
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Roy Finn
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First, the guy at the range does not know what he's talking about. If you don't over heat the barrel you should get double that mileage, maybe more. The 300 WSM doesn't have a reputation for being a barrel burner. As far as recoil, the 300 WSM in that weight rifle will have some bite. Only you can be the judge of your recoil tolerance, so if the 7mm Mag is acceptable, the 300 won't be a heck of a lot more. By the time you put a scope, mounts and ammo, you will be at 7.5 lbs give or take a few oz's.
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Big Squeeze
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Dale Clifford
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depends alot, on how hot you load it, I like the whissm loaded about like a hot 30-06, which still puts it 10 grs behind a 300 win mag. A 308 or 30-06 might go 7k or so. But more to the point is what level of accuracy do you expect? Hunting accuracy is a pretty wide latitude. |
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Obi Wan Kenobi
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Thanks for the answers fellas.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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I'm thinking 3500 to 5000 round barrel life at a minimum - unlikely you will get there in a lifetime unless you really shoot it a lot. Max loaded 300WSM loads have a tremendous muzzle blast. The light weight ones are (carry them a lot shoot them a little) type of hunting guns and not ideal benchrest every weekend shooters. It should make a fine hunting rifle.
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284winguy
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I have a fairly light A-Bolt 300WSM. It does kick a bit, a little more than a 30-06 or in that ball park anyway. I reload so I can adjust the loads to to a good degree when I want..
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snowflake77
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My m70 300 WSM kicks more than I thought it would. I sold my 300 RUM with a muzzle break and thought this would be in the same ball park out of the box. I was wrong. I will not be shooting any varmints with this gun. I handload and the most accurate hunting load I came up with kicks too much for anything other than a bug game trophy. 180 gr with 70gr 4831sc
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Tip69
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For those folks who own Mod. 70 as well as Rem 700's in the same caliber, do you think the 70s kick more than the 700s? I had a late 1970's version of a m70 in 30-06 and eventually sold it. It seemed to kick more than other '06s that I shot including 700s as well as a Montgomery Ward (FN made I think) mauser. Wondering if that had an affect on snowflake.
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take em!
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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I ran across an opinion from a trusted source which I will post to share since it is on point about this issue:
Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - September/23/2008 at 22:26 |
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supertool73
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+10,000 to that |
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snowflake77
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Nice read.
Not sure about the difference in the m70 and the 700 in relation to the kick. What it comes down to is the weight of the gun and the load coming out. These lightweight, high caliber rifles are not for everybody. I can tell you that I would flinch shooting at a varmint but there will be none when that trophy is in the scope. This is why we keep a multitude of guns in our collection. One for this and one for that. |
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I bought a Tikka Lite in 300WSM a while back and mounted a Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x50 scope on it using the factory Tikka rings. It was brutal enough to bust the locking lug of the front ring and bring it back through the ring itself horizontally. Yes everything was tight and I have mounted countless scopes having owned a gun store for 6 years. The recoil was brutal in a 6 pound rifle. I took it in to a local gunsmith and had the barrel threaded and braked. It now has less recoil then my 243. I put Millet rings on it and will now shoot under an inch at 200 yards. Prior to that my groups were 3-4 inches at 100 yards, which must have been shooter apprehension. I hope this helps.
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trigger29
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To add to this, fit and stock design cannot be overlooked. Stock design alone has made a big difference for me on a .300 win. And a good recoil pad goes a long ways too.
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Steelbenz
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Wes, I'm glad I read that, makes me feel better about my narrow minded " been shootin' a .308 for 30 years why the heck change now" LOL
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