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300ultra ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() ![]() Joined: August/04/2008 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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been researching this to death, need some input. I have a remington 700pss in 300 ultramag, choate ultimate sniper stock, harris brs bipod, custom muzzlebrake and trigger, 20moa farrell base, all the goodies. weighs appr. 17lbs. this is my "toy", looking for the best glass in the 800-1200 dollar price range?? considerations have been, swarovski av 6-18x50, mk4 4.5-14x50, horus vision raptor4-16x50, nikon tactical 4-16x50, elite 6500 4.5-30x50, and maby a z6 demo 2-12x50. HELP!!!!!!!
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Optimus Prime ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() ![]() RMS Jr. Joined: October/07/2007 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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If adequate eye relief, tracking, repeatability, glass quality, and a world class customer service dept in the highly unlikely event that you'll ever need it mean anything to you, theres really only 1 choice......The choice of working professionals. ![]() |
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Ed Connelly ![]() Optics Retard ![]() ![]() God of no Chihuahua Joined: December/16/2007 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 24225 |
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" Well, we heard fwom Otimus Pwime and he thinks Weupold is the best...Anyone else wanna twy one...? "
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Optimus Prime ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() ![]() RMS Jr. Joined: October/07/2007 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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Oooops...I forgot about the comments from the OT peanut gallery...
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Rancid Coolaid ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Joined: January/19/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9318 |
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If you get an LE or military discount, Leupold is a good choice; however, if you do not get the discount, something else is almost always the better deal. At what ranges will you be shooting? in truth, for that rifle, I would recommend this: http://www.swfa.com/pc-12303-292-ior-4-14x50-tactical-30mm-rifle-scope.aspx They also make a 3-18; however, the configuration of the main tube leaves too little room on the back to mount a ring and still have adjustment range for a long-action rifle. 4-14X will do nicely for anything out to 800+ yards, and IOR's elevation range is generous. If I were you, I'd skip Leupold unless you get the discount. The IOR is a much better scope. |
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Steelbenz ![]() Optics Jedi Knight ![]() ![]() ROLL TIDE ROLL Joined: January/03/2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Status: Offline Points: 5153 |
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RC, clean out your mail box
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Steelbenz ![]() Optics Jedi Knight ![]() ![]() ROLL TIDE ROLL Joined: January/03/2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Status: Offline Points: 5153 |
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I agree with RC, Go with the IOR.
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supertool73 ![]() Optics God ![]() ![]() Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Status: Offline Points: 11814 |
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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.
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supertool73 ![]() Optics God ![]() ![]() Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Status: Offline Points: 11814 |
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With the Leupold 4.5-14x you may have a problem mounting it on a long action. You may not be able to get the scope pulled back far enough towards your eye to get proper eye relief. THe bell of the scope hits the front of the base. I seen that on two short action rifles this spring at a rifle class. They both since then have had their stocks cut shorter. So I am thinking with a long action this could really pose a problem.
The IOR 4-14x is longer and will probably work better for you. ![]() Leupold 4.5-14x ![]() If you want to go with the Leupold I would get this one. It will give you a little more length to play with. Leupold 6.5-20x ![]() |
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Optimus Prime ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() ![]() RMS Jr. Joined: October/07/2007 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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Leupold has a world class customer service dept and custom shop.
IOR has....Val.
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supertool73 ![]() Optics God ![]() ![]() Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Status: Offline Points: 11814 |
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My one problem with IOR out of the 6 I have had and I had a brand new
scope in my hands in a week. That is pretty good service if you ask
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And I would rather be able to see my target well than be able to brag about Leupold have a cool custom shop. |
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Big Squeeze ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() GOOGLE NINJA Joined: August/30/2007 Location: Anaheim, Calif. Status: Offline Points: 3143 |
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Although I own a VX3, I`m not a big Leupy fan either. Pay more; get less!...........But they do offer a huge selection in the 1" straight tubed, low powered variables, with great eye relief for the DGR`s; my Ruger Alaskan as an example................Though there are better scopes optically for less and even more money out there, my VX3 will still do the job well on any hunt.
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Optimus Prime ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() ![]() RMS Jr. Joined: October/07/2007 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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Well now, I'm truly happy for your good fortune, BUT not everybody has been as fortunate as you concerning IOR's much maligned CS dept.
Some of the less fortunate IOR customers that have struggled with IOR's CS even frequent this forum.
But, I digress.
I'm not one to name names or anything that counter-productive.
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300ultra ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() ![]() Joined: August/04/2008 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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nobody likes swarovski or nikon i guess, but thanks for the input, good point on the scope length on a long action!!!!! 6.5-20x50 mk4 possible.the ior 4-14 pics that i see either have the large knobs or small, which is which??
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Steelbenz ![]() Optics Jedi Knight ![]() ![]() ROLL TIDE ROLL Joined: January/03/2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Status: Offline Points: 5153 |
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For the price you pay and what little you get with that Leo, They should hand deliver the dang thing and give you a Kiss too. Like CS is the only thing that matters, how about bang for your buck? Sorry you just can't convince me.
I will agree with you about Dale though!!! |
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Optimus Prime ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() ![]() RMS Jr. Joined: October/07/2007 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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Ok...you bought the Leupold because it was more expensive and you LOVE over spending
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Rancid Coolaid ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Joined: January/19/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9318 |
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Optimus, nice to know you haven't changed, everything is right with the world.
Leupold has great customer service and decent product; IOR has great product and decent customer service: spend the money where you want. Since I don't use Customer Service in my day-to-day shoting, I choose the product every time. Swaro makes an exceptional scope but, like I said before, the AH isn't designed for the recoil you will be generating. Call their Service Department and they will recommend you not put an AH on a 300RUM. Nikon is OK, their tactical scope is not bad for the price, but not in the same league with the IOR - glass or features. If you plan on long-range shooting, it's nice top have the large elevation knob so you don't get lost spinning up your dope. Mailbox cleared, fire away. |
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Optimus Prime ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() ![]() RMS Jr. Joined: October/07/2007 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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![]() I like to call it consistant.
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300ultra ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() ![]() Joined: August/04/2008 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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ok no swarovski av, what about the z6(z6i) vs. the ior?????
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