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BlackSwan
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Posted: April/12/2008 at 22:09 |
I am not a trophy hunter - but since my living room is decorated in african art - I have a hankering to harvest an Oryx in NM - meat, hide and horns .
Doe anyone have any experience - or recommendations re such a hunt? |
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helo18
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I didn't even know they had those in the US.
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BlackSwan
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They were released onto the White Sands Missle range decades ago, and now number in the thousands - NM has a draw hunt and there are special rules for applying to hunt on military ground - I have applied once - but did'nt make the draw.
I see some outfitters listing them - so I am just looking for some feedback/recommendations. |
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Ed Connelly
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Well, I know that drawing one of those tags is a once in a lifetime deal....you only get to have a license for Oryx ONE TIME. Out of state will require you to hire a guide/outfitter. After that, if you get the license, the only thing left is: I would recommend a 30/06 or 300 Winchester Magnum or something on that order. Bring sunglasses. --Ed
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RONK
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I think it's a lot easier to get tags for non-trophy animals, or at least cheaper rates from outfitters. Apparently they fight a lot and many of the big males have broken/missing horns, making them a less valuable commodity. They are one of the more aggressive antelope species, and VERY tough. As Ed suggests, use plenty of gun. I would lead toward the 30-06 as a minimum and would prefer a .338 or.375, (based only on what I've read about them.)
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BlackSwan
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I will check into it again and see what happens. It is starting to sound like I might need another new rifle . Maybe I should start getting one together just in case.
A few years ago the safari trips to South Africa were a real steal - you could get in and back for a 3-4 K and bring home some nice animals. Then the USD took a slide and we are spending a lot of USPs (US pesos) to do anything fun these days. Unfortunately I really have no room for more than just one set of horns - and frankly would find a broken/ unmatched pair more appealing. I have been amazed how many of these animal products one can find on e-bay - but there is something about a hunt and the story of the hunt (not the e-bay hunt) that is important. I will apply again! |
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pyro6999
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemsbok
according to wikipedia they released gemsbok to the white sands missle range not oryx
Edited by pyro6999 - April/13/2008 at 09:47 |
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pyro6999
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any who they weigh less than an elk i dont see a need to use a .375, 30 cal stuff should be plenty as long as you use a good quality bullet
Edited by pyro6999 - April/13/2008 at 09:48 |
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lucytuma
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Ditto with Pyro, anything from 30cal up should work fine, 7mm /w/ heavy bullets would probably work fine also. |
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pyro6999
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absolutely, even the 6.5mm stuff with a swift a frame would do the trick
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Pyro, I figured the 6.5 would come into play, alittle light for me, but i'm sure it could work, especially in .264win/6.5rem.
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cheaptrick
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I used to love driving through the White Sands area and Alamogordo on my way down to Juarez, Mexico for R&R
A hunt in that area, for that animal would be terrific, I would think.
Seems I heard or read that you must also be accompanied by a military attaché during your hunt. I may certainly be wrong on that, but it makes sense that they wouldn't just let armed civilians run wild out there on that installation.
Sounds like a cool hunt. Good luck and keep us informed.
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pyro6999
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sure with a 140 gr swift a frame the .264 would be like using a 190gr out of a 30 cal
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Sectional density is a determining factor, thats for sure, but I like a little more frontal area.
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pyro6999
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thats fine, i wouldnt hesitate to use a 6.5mm and chris farris wouldnt either, i know he has taken his 6.5stw to africa and knocked off a lot of animals with one shot, even his ph was skeptical for a while towards the end he was very impressed with the "little" rifle
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I think this would be a perfect time to use that 338 your contimplating.
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RONK
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I think you're right, Mark. Many of the oryx or gemsbok or whatever they are have broken thier horns by attacking military jeeps whose drivers venture too close. Punctured radiators are fairly common.
In Africa lions are often impaled by them. They are fairly serious animals.
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...and what would that entail, Mark?
BTW, Re: Oryx vs. Gemsbock... those are interchangeable names for essentially the same animal. A Gemsbock is classified as an Oryx. They are a subspecies of the same Genus and NM calls them Oryx in their hunting regs.
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