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Second Amend
Optics GrassHopper Joined: March/11/2008 Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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How so? The IOR is a contender. |
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supertool73
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They have half mil marks and multiple widths of the marks that can be used for more measurement in ranging. It is easier to range with the 1/2 mil marks as sometimes you may need to use 1.8 mils or 1.9 mils to get an accurate measurement for ranging the particular distance. That is much more difficult to break down when you only have a mark every mil to judge with. Also the center dot that is used in place of the cross hair is much superior in my opinion.
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supertool73
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But all that being said if all you are ever are going to do is shoot on a range at known distances the mildot or MP8 will serve no practical purpose other than maybe hold over.
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Thanks. You get more refinement with the MP8, but it seems so cluttered. What's your (or anyone's) take on the illuminated reticle and exposed knobs? |
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supertool73
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Its not cluttered, they work great.
Exposed are good if you plan on making adjustments all the time for different ranges and windage. If you don't plan on that no need to have them. Lit reticles perform best in low light, at dark they are pretty much over powering even on the lower setting. If your target is lit up pretty well, they may benefit you some but in darkness they are pretty hard to use as it becomes very hard to make out your target with the bright red light in the scope. |
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cyborg
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The MP-8 reticle looks cluttered in the pics, which are emboldened and not completely representative of the actual reticle, which is absolutely fantastic. If you ever look through one you will see why some of us here are sold on IOR.
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Had a chance to check out the Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44 and 6.5-20x50mm. Positive impressions so far.
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cyborg
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You should really look at the MP-8 reticle, although the Zeiss is a nice scope for sure.
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Will definitely do so. One of my range buddies has several IOR scopes on a few of his rifles, so I'll see if he's got the MP-8. |
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trigger29
Optics Master Extraordinaire X = 180 Y = 90 (X+Pyro)+(Y-Pyro) = ? Joined: September/29/2007 Location: South Dakota Status: Offline Points: 4353 |
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Got the 4.5-14x44 Zeiss you looked at, and just started shooting long range with it. (don't know what everyone else considers long range, but for me anything beyond 400) I was very impressed with the scope. I believe they are a screaming deal for pretty good optics. I don't know if you looked at the Rapid-Z reticle that I suggested earlier. I suggested the lower power to stay inside your budget, as the 4.5-14 runs about $800. I just used the reticle last saturday to put on on a steel target at 600 first shot I ever tried that far. A Kahles with Multizero off the samplelist would be a screaming deal also. Not sure what powers they have.
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