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Dolphin
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Ok, I bought all the reloading equipment for my Rem. 700 BDL Deluxe in a 375 RUM that I bought several years ago. I cannot remember what scope I even have on it, but I am sure that it not what it needs. Right now, I am stuck between two choices. A Leupold VX-III 1.5-5x 20mm just like I put on my CZ 458 win. mag. or a Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8x 32mm with a Z-plex reticle, both for the same price. I can get a similar Zeiss as the Leupold for the same price, but the FOV is not as great and I like the Leupold warranty on these hard kickers. I also worry about all of the refurbished Zeiss scopes. Not many Leupold refurbished scopes around. What do you guys think.
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Roy Finn
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You can double check with SWFA, but, I don't believe Leupold sells or has ever sold "refurbished" scopes. On a 375 RUM, I would get whatever scope offered the most eye relief or bring along a plastic surgeon on future hunts.
Roy
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Dolphin
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The Leupold I have has tons of eye relief. However, with the 375, I was thinking that a little more magnification might be useful and a different brand, such as a Zeiss would be a change of pace, since I do not own one.
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Big Squeeze
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edsguns
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You mentioned your VXIII Leupold so I thought I'd recommend another Leupold product you might want to consider at about the same cost. The Leupold 30mm European line has two models that could interest you, the 1.25-4x20 (eye relief is 3.8-4.3") and a 2-7x33 (eye relief is 3.8-4.9"). I have one of each and am quite satisfied with both. Side by side comparisons with my Zeiss 3-9x40 Conquest show both, to my eye, are as clear and brighter at dusk as well. I chose the German #4 reticle on both and love it. I am thinking a 3-9x40 duplex model may come live at my house very soon as well. Good Luck.
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tahqua
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The Kahles 1.1-4x24 are an outstanding choice IMO. I have two of them and like them far better than the 1.5-5 Leupold I have. They have several reticle choices and the glass is excellent. You could mount one in some Talley or Warne QD's and be good to go anywhere.
BTW, cool gun, D Doug |
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Mojo
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I would opt for a Kahles 1.5-6 X42 Helia C.
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edsguns
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Sorry, but I am absolutely amazed about the suggestions for BIG objective scopes here. Sorry, I'm merely someone who has hunted 30+ years and owned somewhere north of 75 scopes for big game rifles (and still own 50+ such rifles) and the idea that someone would want a 42MM scope for this application absolutely floors me. Sorry, apparently not an EXPERT on this forum, only someone with experience. Apparently it only matters how many B.S. posts someone makes here!
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tahqua
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So just what makes a post B.S. All opinions are valid whether you like them or not.
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Big Squeeze
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Sorry, but I prefer the idea that all posts are valid...if you know what you are talking about, vs trying to impress someone with cost, size, name, etc. Of course this could be only an opinion!
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I'd simply assume that the number that was mentioned gave us an idea as to what size the "customer" was wanting. I'd not assume (we all know what that would make me) that they would prefer something substantially...bigger! Again, simply my opinion. |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to seem to put you off. I'd say that the likely maximum wanted was somewhere near the two that were mentioned; 20 and 32.
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tahqua
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I happen to own several Kahles scopes ranging from 1.1-4x24 to 2.2-9x42. I'm not trying to impress anyone but me. All of these scopes are far better than the Burris, Nikon, Bushnell and Leupold's that I have. I firmly believe you get what you pay for with firearms and optics for them. I have two heavy kickers that have Kahles 1.1-4x24's on them and they are well suited to the task. The suggestion for the 1.5-6x42 is a good one because the .375 RUM is a flat shooting cartridge that can utilize the extra magnification. Not because you need 6x to shoot a large animal at 300-400 yards, but because it allows you to see obstructions that can deflect a bullet. Worse yet, miff the shot because of this and wound an animal. The 1.5-6x42 has the same eye relief which is totally adequate for a heavy kicker at 3.54". It does lose some FOV, 118'/100yds for the 1.1-4 versus 75.5'/100yds for the 1.5-6x42. My Leupold 1.5-5x20 has 65.7'/100yds. In my opinion, if cost is not a problem, both Kahles blow the Leupy away in every respect. |
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I'll tell you what...here's my point, EXACTLY. When someone makes a post and mentions 2 or 3 scopes that may be what they are looking for, and an answer to their post is a scope that is nearly 5 TIMES the price of either scope mentioned...I cannot help but think this is a post made without much thought, except to whatever might be the BEST scope, cost irrelevant. There, was that quite clear enough!
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Hunterken8, is that you???
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tahqua
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A new VX-III 1.5-5 is $400 minimum. There are several 1.1-4x24 Kahles on the Sample List for $600. Five times as much, I don't think so. Clear enough!
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